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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 3 1947 you're on the air

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forces has announced on applying this

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has been found and is now in the

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possession of the otter the game is

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rigged changed the game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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we need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to black with

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jimmy touch on the game changing network

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good evening fade to black

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this folk radio for the masses yeah

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today's Monday July 2nd 2018 183 days

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into the new year

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just 182 days left we're live from a

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bunker somewhere in beautiful downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near this is fade to

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black for kjc are the game changer

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network and kgr a the planets I'm real

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Jimmy Church what is cracking everybody

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happy world UFO day yeah happy world UFO

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tonight's well it is worldview fo day

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and we welcome a very special guest

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Joshua P Warren is here now we're gonna

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cover all things UFOs sightings video

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abductions and disclosure and his recent

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that published today Fox News Fox News

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covered Joshua and the headline reads

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time warp discovered outside Las Vegas

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and there you go it's an article well

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written by the way about Joshua and his

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device that he used called the DT meter

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the differential time rate meter we're

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gonna discuss all of that what a crazy

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day right great story to break on world

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UFO day with a our very own Joshua P

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Warren so we're gonna do everything

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ufo-related so buckle up kiddies it's

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gonna be a great show now tomorrow night

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continuing our UFO theme for world UFO

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day tomorrow night Michael Lee Hill is

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back with us and we're gonna talk about

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the recent Enki crop circles that's

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right okay now he's he's written an

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amazing article over at Michael Lee Hill

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dotnet when you can go check it out

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there and he'll be with us tomorrow

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night and I'd it's always great when

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Michael Law joins us on fader block so

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we will see him tomorrow night Wednesday

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and Thursday we are taking off that's

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friends and it just so happens that it

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much-needed rest and time off okay so

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the recap well except for July 4th we

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won't be resting and they'll take us

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right into our next broadcast will be

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Monday July 9th okay we'll be back we

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will be back and I already know I'll

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announce it tomorrow

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but I know who Monday's guest is and

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I've been waiting and waiting and

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waiting for this so yeah Monday it's

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gonna be a very special night all right

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mana sounds like I need to hit this

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River moon coffee mmm yeah it's the best

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alright I'm stellar that's where you

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need to be that's where you need to go

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on stellar calm ons te ll AR calm it is

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the next great a social media platform

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today and just use my referral code

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Jimmy when you go over there and sign up

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I've got links you can use - it does

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everything automatically for you

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maybe I'll get that at the bottom of the

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hour and I'll I'll post that but

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nonetheless I did it yesterday on

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Twitter you know I don't think I got

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around to it today but today Peter

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tatran right lead singer guitar player

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for hypocrisy is in town right he flew

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in from Sweden and I think he flew him

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from Berlin actually he just did a

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festival there anyway so this morning I

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wake up boom there's Peter hey men you

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want to stop by the studio today

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yeah and he's producing the new album

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for possessed the death metal band out

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of a San Francisco an amazing band

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creators of death metal right that's the

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name of the first EP death metal

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anyway so he's producing them here in

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town and he says come on over so what do

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the studio and happens to be right here

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right down the street so I go in and

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it's great and I posted some pictures of

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Peter and I today but nonetheless this

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is the deal so we started talking about

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on stellar and he got registered today

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yeah Peter tatran ansell or so look him

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up it's t AG

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he gr en but it's pronounced like with a

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K that's how the Swedes do it tact grin

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even those ta GT but send Peter a friend

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request he he's not on on stellar as I

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speak because he's cutting tracks in the

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studio with possessed oh man so much fun

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to go into a drum room and see drums

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laid out with knowing and yeah it was a

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pretty cool very nice Neve console too

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as well that I got to oppose in front of

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I did touch the faders just to and look

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Peter Knight talked about the EQ section

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of that console for a minute but anyway

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so but we started talking about on

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stellar now Peter is over there so go

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send Peter a friend request at on

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stellar comm and you can follow me on

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Twitter at Jay Church radio that is

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simple come and hang out with this

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hashtag f2 B is the sandbox where we

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will be all night tonight hanging out

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not only hanging out but just engaging

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in incredible conversation so there you

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go yep mark Tirana there it is there's a

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couple of pretty good shots and Peter's

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amazing look at that Neve console look

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and they just don't make them like that

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anymore

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so anyway I got some more pictures maybe

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hashtag F to B in Twitter is fade to

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black questions and the questions or

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comments during the show tonight just

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hit me up right there let me get through

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a few things really quick you can also

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email throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio calm breaking news that's

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right those 12 soccer players and their

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coats who ventured into a thailand cave

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last month as they entered they left

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their bikes chained at the entrance they

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expected to come back in a few hours but

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they did not nor the next day or for

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another week but finally today after

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nine days all 13 team members were found

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but rescuing them may prove to be pretty

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difficult because it's not clear if the

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rescuers will be able to drain the cave

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or if the divers are gonna have to teach

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the boys how to dive to get them out

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there all week you know they haven't had

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food and they've been in a cave for nine

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days how are they gonna pull that off I

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don't have any idea but right now they

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are all safe and technically they've

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been rescued and they must be very happy

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gonna be some really bad news but there

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you go all right next up don't forget to

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yes okay quick Tech's coming in from

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well good okay soul tech gathering it's

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through the 12th all you have to do is

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you're going to school come and hang out

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with us we're gonna have a great party

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there Sunday night food trucks music fun

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there hundreds of fate or nots all it's

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that's August 17th through the 19th in

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twenty other speakers and presenters all

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great weekend out there I can't wait for

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it so two great events two weeks in a

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row I wonder how many of you are going

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yeah you know what it's gonna happen I

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know that's the way it goes right and we

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out there he said he week later in

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Colorado it's gonna be hey just hung out

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with you for a weekend this is great to

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see you here so how many of you are

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changed he get the t.com River Moon

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coffee ancient life oil today Peter

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to bring any River moon coffee fade to

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black plants I go really aren't you

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happy to see me yeah but but I was

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hoping you're gonna bring that I said

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okay man I'll hook you up with some fade

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to black blend to take back to Sweden

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man I want to take alright alright River

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moon coffee ancient life oil sacred

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optics let's get this show crackin happy

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birthday to today Larry David is 70 yeah

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that's right Curb Your Enthusiasm in

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Seinfeld but you know there's two

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New York Times have labeled her as the

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most important female figure and

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top-selling female artist in Mexican

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music period Billboard magazine named

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her the top Latin artists of 2013 and

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the best-selling Latin artist in 2013

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but it was on December 9th 2012 she was

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one of five passengers and true to crew

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aboard a Learjet 25 when air traffic

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controllers lost contact as it was

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flying near Nuevo Leon Rivera was

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finally buried on December 31st 2012 at

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all souls Cemetery in Long Beach

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California and that was that was a bad

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day

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aircraft was lost that's right the

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lockheed aircraft carrying American

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aviator Amelia Earhart and navigator

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Frederic Noonan is reported missing near

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Howland island in the Pacific yep did

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she survive we'll never know

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1997 though on this day in history

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OTB the documentary men in black

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starring Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones

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is released that's right I said it

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documentary fader fact in South Korea

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listen to me in South Korea there is an

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emergency phone number and it's phone

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number one one three that you can use to

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report spies

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that's right and there is your fader

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fact tonight is world UFO day that's

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right tonight we welcome a special guest

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Joshua P Warren we're gonna cover all

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things UFO tonight UFO sightings video

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abductions and disclosure and of course

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we're going to discuss his recent

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finding of a time warp outside of Las

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Vegas Nevada that was covered today by

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Fox News very interesting that this

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story broke today we had Joshua book for

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awhile for this day for world UFO day

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the story was released today it's an

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interesting read the links are up there

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in Twitter we'll be talking to Joshua

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about that too as well and now tomorrow

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night Michael Lee Hills going to be here

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but there will be no shows Wednesday or

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Thursday because Rita and I are taking

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two days off for July 4th that's right

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you're gonna have to deal with it

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alright here we go okay so over the

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weekend and Saturday to be exact I was

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sitting in the bunker here working I was

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I was literally working and then I got a

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call from Tommy Dan Heiser the producer

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with George Noory over at coast-to-coast

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am and he says to me if he said hey you

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know could I go on the air I was like

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what I didn't know what he was talking

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about but I said yes I knew that coast

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to coast wasn't on the air didn't know

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what was going on it was like very

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strange and then he called back about a

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minute later and asked me for a quick

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sound check and I literally said testing

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and he said he got him got him got him

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go let's go and and then he just comes

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straight out he goes Jimmy we are live

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right now with a panel with an audience

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of a hundred and fifty you know more or

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less that's what he said and so I

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respond back you know hello everyone and

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then you know there was some cheering

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and some applause so I knew that we were

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live and it was indeed in front of a

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some kind of studio audience live

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somewhere and it turns out that this was

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George Nori's panel at the A&P

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conference in Vancouver the architects

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of the new paradigm conference right and

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then Tom immediately goes straight there

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he says and I'm quoting he goes when Tom

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DeLonge was on your show What did he say

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that we should nuke ET and quote I was

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like did he so what and so I didn't

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remember anything about that and I

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answered honestly and as truthful as I

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could which is I answered I don't

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remember Tom saying anything like that

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which I don't write and the call ended

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so I don't know what's going on great I

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don't know and Tom calls me back after I

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tweeted about the quick guest appearance

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you know on Nori's panel I said you know

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I would report about it today on the

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show so I am now and Tom called me back

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a bit later and explained what went on

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and which was that Grant Cameron who was

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there at the MP conference who was on

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the panel had said something like and

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I'm quoting here from Tom on Jimmy's

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show the long stated that we should nuke

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ET and quote well Stephen Bassett was

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there too he's on the panel and he took

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exception to Grant's claim and you know

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some back-and-forth went down and George

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Noory then says you know Dan Heiser you

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know get get church on the phone and

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we'll settle this so Tom did and I did

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but then Twitter took over as it should

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and Mark Tirana from Australia posted

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the section of the DeLong interview on

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fade to black for everyone to hear for

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themselves what was actually said so

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here it is I'm gonna play it for you and

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your entire in image and

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already for you and let's listen this

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this is a Tom and eyes exchange on fade

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to black here we go

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a walk in the atmosphere like that oh my

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god it's like you would think that like

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Jupiter was like crashing into our sky

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you know it's like it's a big deal then

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and it's just it's just unreal I think

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one of the the you know everyone has to

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remember what happened once we started

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playing with nuclear weapons

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UFOs showed up everywhere every time and

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every time and in and you got to think

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why well there's a big reason why

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because nuclear weapons will ass up

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those little those little ankle-biters

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if it's bad and they know it and and

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even they as advanced as they are they

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can't get away from it and makes you

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really wonder why we did so many nuclear

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tests it makes you really wonder why we

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did like thirty thousand tests all over

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the world and oceans underground up in

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the sky and why we all have so many

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nuclear weapons it's a it's a big deal

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you know I'm not going to say it's all

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for this but I was told something really

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really really important the entire Cold

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War we were working with the Soviet

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Union we were together with them and it

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was the one thing that kept the Cold War

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from going hot was our relationship

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together on this issue

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we weren't dumb and just went and lit up

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a nuke when we were in a standoff with

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Russia

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you know the Cuban Missile Crisis

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wherever look oh my God we're all gonna

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die and we said well then we might as

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well do a nuke test yeah we were it's

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like no it didn't work that way

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they knew we did the nuke test they were

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probably in the room with us when we did

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that test because there was a small

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group of people on both sides that were

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trying to do exactly what they did which

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was fly swats and bugs out of the sky

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I want to talk about Roswell and not

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deeply I just want to go to the factual

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side of the event itself so there you go

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that's the clip and I do remember this I

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remember the conversation and my memory

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that it was only about nuclear testing

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in the Russians is what I recall and

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that et probably knew that the nuclear

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testing would mess with them in some way

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that was the flavor of it which I can

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agree with at the end Tom says something

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about the testing may have and I'm

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quoting here excuse me that came out of

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nowhere and I'm quoting here fly SWAT

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some bugs out of the sky well that's it

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and there there wasn't any mention by

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Tom saying that we should nuke ET or use

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our weapons against et that's not what

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he said I can understand how over time

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some may have stretched this out into

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something that it is not and like that

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old game of telephone you know that we

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used to play as kids after you know

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listening to Tom segment a few times

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there was no way that grant Cameron

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would think this is the opposite of what

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Tom stated you know I don't think grant

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actually listened to the interviewer

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maybe he did but he forgotten and

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somebody else suggested something to him

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and they had heard it from somebody else

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somebody else told them what was said

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and by the time he got back around to

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grant its Tom DeLonge says we should new

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key team okay I clearly think that this

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is not the case here and somebody

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probably just told grant that this is

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what was said and as with anything you

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have to check and vet

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everything yourself before you go and

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quote or say something in public you're

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going to get caught every time that's

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just the way that it is and and this you

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know I appreciate Steve ambassador to it

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but I doubt Bassett listened to the show

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maybe he has now but there it is and

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there's the clip and I am probably gonna

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post a little video about this on

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YouTube and and get it out there to

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clear all of this up so everybody can go

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and listen to this very specific clip

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and you can hear what was said now

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knowing all of that I have been very

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vocal about some issues with TTS a and

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the way that the videos were presented

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and and other things okay so that that's

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that part but this stands completely

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alone from this situation here and in

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this case I've listened to it I'm gonna

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back up Tom and what he said he he did

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not say we should nuke ET it's not what

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he said this was about nuclear testing

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and the Russians and an et presence and

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the fact that there may have been less

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et's during nuclear testing or whatever

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reason but that that is it so I'm just

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gonna go on the record and and and say

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in this case now that that tom was right

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and also I listened to this many many

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many many times now dozens since this

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thing went down and I gotta say if you

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go back and you listen to Tom he sounds

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bright and engaged here and that's not

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the way I remember that interview I

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remember that interview being fun

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we talked music and we talked about all

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kinds of aspects of IDT and what it

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possibly could be and we jumped into a

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lot of religious things I remember all

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of that but I also remember the

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interview being a bit more

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here tom is engaged he is right there

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he's spot-on and and I think what he

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said made a lot of sense also I think

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there was a mistake made I think he said

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that there were 30,000 nuclear tests and

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I think there was that many I think

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there was 2,000 I could be wrong can

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somebody look that up I'm gonna see that

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in Twitter really quick somebody help me

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out and how many nuclear tests have

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there been in the history of the world

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mine my memory says 2,000 and he says

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30,000 there

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he probably just misspoke and I don't

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want this to get into something that it

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is not but there you go and I wanted to

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clear the air for everybody so you can

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actually hear not only on this show live

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but forever in YouTube and in our

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archives what was actually said and

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there you go

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grant also has a show on kgr a and

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hopefully he'll be able to go there and

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and clear this up too as well because I

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think he is a great researcher and I

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think this was all a game of telephone

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and a misunderstanding all the way

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around that's my take there's the

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official recording right there and now I

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think we can move on with that I'm gonna

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get out of here because tonight is the

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evening of world UFO day all right world

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UFO day our guest tonight is Joshua P

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Warren and if you haven't seen it yet

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you need to go and check out the story

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right there released today by Fox News

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about Joshua's discovery of a time warp

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outside of Las Vegas Nevada with that

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy church tonight Joshua P Warren

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tomorrow night Michael Lee Hill

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Wednesday and Thursday we're taking

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those days off and there you go fade to

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it is Joshua P Warren he's an

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investigator pioneers the amazing

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relationship between the mind energy

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matter and strange phenomena

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00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:03,700
he owns the Asheville History Museum in

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laboratory in North Carolina and the

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Bermuda Triangle research base in Puerto

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00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:10,929
Rico he's the author of over 20

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00:34:15,629 --> 00:34:12,280
best-selling books and he's also

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00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:15,639
appeared on history discovery Nat Geo

643
00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:18,460
Animal Planet's sci-fi TLC and start on

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Travel Channel series paranormal

645
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paparazzi travels of the world

646
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,490
investigating mysterious phenomena and

647
00:34:29,099 --> 00:34:26,560
is even made the cover of a science

648
00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:29,109
journal back in 2004 for lab experiments

649
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:31,629
regarding energy fields in nature

650
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related to the Brown Mountain lights

651
00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:38,290
tonight is world UFO day that's kind of

652
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:42,280
sounds weird tonight is world UFO night

653
00:34:47,399 --> 00:34:45,490
and we're gonna discuss every side of

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the UFO question including abduction

655
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:50,050
sightings contact and disclosure and of

656
00:34:56,940 --> 00:34:53,649
course the Fox News story that broke

657
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:56,950
today and that is very interesting we're

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00:35:00,210 --> 00:34:59,170
gonna discuss that too like to welcome

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back to fade to black

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Joshua P Warren Joshua you've had a busy

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day my friend oh you know I'm praying

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00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:08,280
honestly that I can keep my voice

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00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:11,790
because it's been a busy past seven days

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I'm very honored to be on the program

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00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:16,599
with you but seriously I mean I've

666
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:19,510
gotten almost no sleep because for the

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00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:22,330
past almost seven days I have been

668
00:35:28,589 --> 00:35:25,359
receiving calls from media around the

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00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:28,599
clock just last night I was talking to

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two production companies in London who

671
00:35:34,260 --> 00:35:32,589
wanted to do a piece with me and that

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:34,270
was three o'clock in the morning my time

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00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:35,410
and then I got up and did three

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00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:36,670
interviews today so

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00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:41,290
forgive me if I don't sound as powerful

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00:35:49,260 --> 00:35:45,910
on the air like you know what's great

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00:35:52,319 --> 00:35:49,270
Joshua is when you have that lack of

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00:35:54,089 --> 00:35:52,329
sleep and you go into that zone that's

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00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:54,099
when I'm gonna get the best out of you

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00:36:00,690 --> 00:35:59,290
that's a so let's put the gloves on man

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00:36:04,859 --> 00:36:00,700
and get ready we're gonna have some fun

682
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:04,869
tonight so it's world UFO day and this

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00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,290
story broke we you and I had all kinds

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00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:10,000
of plans about discussing you know

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00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:12,040
everything you have all related this

686
00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:15,880
story breaks today with Fox and I read

687
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:19,240
through it I'm like holy crap right okay

688
00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:22,240
Joshua once again did it so I do want to

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00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:25,420
discuss that in depth and then I do want

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00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:29,440
to take some time to discuss a couple of

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00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:33,490
years ago on the program you revealed

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00:36:43,650 --> 00:36:39,010
the the UFO over the airport in Puerto

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Rico and and we aired that you know for

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00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:45,250
the first time on this show and when we

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played that video and I watched it was

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one thing to watch it go over the

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00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:53,049
airport but it was a whole nother thing

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00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:54,520
to watch it go in and out of the water

699
00:36:58,859 --> 00:36:57,369
that just absolutely freaked me out but

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this is what I find interesting about

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00:37:04,650 --> 00:37:02,200
that video in the since December as the

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00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:04,660
world knows we've had three videos

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00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:06,790
surfaced well they've been out on the

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00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:07,960
web for a while but they certainly

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00:37:14,789 --> 00:37:11,380
surfaced through the New York Times and

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00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:14,799
the mass media of these three gun camera

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00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,940
shots and as cool as they are and you

708
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:21,280
know they show whatever they show they

709
00:37:28,890 --> 00:37:25,359
are nothing compared to that video from

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00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:28,900
Puerto Rico and I want to go back and

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00:37:34,859 --> 00:37:32,230
revisit the importance of that and how

712
00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:34,869
do you feel now when you have seen you

713
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:37,299
know those three recent videos that have

714
00:37:42,359 --> 00:37:40,089
been put out there and comparing that to

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00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:42,369
what happened over in Puerto Rico to me

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00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:45,190
it's apples and oranges I couldn't agree

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00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:49,089
more I mean I have been saying for

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months now that

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I'm happy that the Pentagon finally

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00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:54,990
admitted that their back engineering UFO

721
00:37:59,460 --> 00:37:57,520
debris and and they're doing it of

722
00:38:00,930 --> 00:37:59,470
course right here in the Las Vegas area

723
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which is where I'm joining you from

724
00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:04,240
right and and of course I was happy that

725
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:07,000
they put some footage out but it's like

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00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:09,910
there still is truly a blind eye being

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00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:13,180
turned to the astounding significance of

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00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:15,880
that footage and and not just the

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00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:19,330
footage itself but also the 162 page

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00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:21,850
report that was done by a group of

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scientists who really broke that down

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and you know I can tell you once again

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that I was in Puerto Rico when that

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00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:34,450
footage was captured and there was a a

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ruckus that spread all across the island

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because something like that on an island

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where everybody to some degree may kind

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00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:45,130
of know each other it spreads like

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00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:47,710
wildfire and it was pretty obvious that

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00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:51,670
nobody knew what that was and there is

741
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:54,430
still no good explanation for what it

742
00:39:01,410 --> 00:38:57,850
was and I find that it's interesting

743
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:01,420
that we have that and many other kinds

744
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:03,220
of UFO incidents that have occurred

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00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:07,300
around Puerto Rico leading up to the

746
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:09,340
hurricane and even after the hurricane

747
00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:12,310
that are just not being reported and so

748
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:14,380
it's it's very strange to me as well

749
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:18,970
well I am going to take another look at

750
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:22,330
that footage and and I'm gonna you know

751
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:24,609
quite frankly I'm just gonna re-release

752
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:27,790
the story I think I think the media

753
00:39:32,910 --> 00:39:30,670
needs to go back as much as they're

754
00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:32,920
playing those other three videos which

755
00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:36,460
again are there okay you know it's not

756
00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:39,160
like they're bad or great you know that

757
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:40,780
I think they're like right in the middle

758
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:42,970
but that footage over Puerto Rico is

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00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:45,730
friggin mind-blowing it's mind-blowing

760
00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:48,040
and they should be showing that video

761
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:50,080
and asking questions and they are not

762
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:53,590
and I'm frustrated with it well it makes

763
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:55,150
you wonder about a couple of things

764
00:40:01,500 --> 00:39:58,690
number one if the amount of disclosure

765
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:01,510
was still being measured very very

766
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carefully

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00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:03,460
meaning that some of the

768
00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:04,870
best evidence is still not being

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acknowledged and secondly if it's

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00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:10,630
because that this was around an airport

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00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:13,180
that had commercial planes with

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00:40:21,570 --> 00:40:18,160
civilians and by admitting that they

773
00:40:25,110 --> 00:40:21,580
could not control or even define what

774
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:25,120
this thing was which was demonstrating

775
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,640
this incredible technical skill that's

776
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:30,160
truly out of this world right around a

777
00:40:34,830 --> 00:40:31,450
place where you have a bunch of

778
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:34,840
vulnerable people they may be afraid

779
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:37,330
that actually would frighten the public

780
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:39,250
and cause too much outrage that's the

781
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:40,770
only way that I can look at this

782
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:43,900
logically that you know it was it's one

783
00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:45,730
thing to say well here's an engagement

784
00:40:49,110 --> 00:40:47,860
that happened around an aircraft carrier

785
00:40:51,090 --> 00:40:49,120
out in the middle of the ocean or

786
00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:51,100
whatever that's another thing to say

787
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:54,040
look how vulnerable an airport is where

788
00:40:57,630 --> 00:40:56,410
all of our homeland security guys all

789
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,640
they can do is just sit there and

790
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:59,200
document it and that's all they don't

791
00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:00,880
know what they're doing with it yeah and

792
00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:03,400
you're being kind actually you just said

793
00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:05,590
around airport that thing flew straight

794
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,470
up the middle of the runway and and not

795
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:10,480
only you know and you have to think of

796
00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:16,000
in terms of et intelligence looks for

797
00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:19,480
other intelligence so it's you know

798
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:22,680
that's what we do here as as humans and

799
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:25,570
if you were et what would you do you

800
00:41:29,580 --> 00:41:27,670
know what how about cruise right up the

801
00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:29,590
middle of a runway let's go check out

802
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:33,880
the other tack and that's exactly what

803
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:35,830
happened the little dive into the ocean

804
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:38,800
well two dives was an extraordinary

805
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:42,880
ending to a pretty amazing video yeah

806
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:44,890
and of course this thing

807
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:48,760
it was around at least six feet in

808
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:51,610
diameter it was traveling about 120

809
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:54,880
miles per hour it did not have any wings

810
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:57,370
or any rotors or any visible means of

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00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:00,160
propulsion it was traveling against the

812
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:03,010
wind in many many cases it was being

813
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:05,410
documented with thermal cameras that

814
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:06,850
showed us that it had you know an

815
00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:08,620
extraordinary temperature this is not

816
00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:10,750
some kind of like you know balloon or

817
00:42:17,690 --> 00:42:14,380
some object like that and then it's for

818
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:17,700
the shape shifts as well and the object

819
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:19,410
of course you know when it dips into the

820
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:22,950
water you can see it continuing to

821
00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:26,250
travel just below the surface of the

822
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:28,350
water because it's true seeing this with

823
00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:30,930
the thermal camera and so you see this

824
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:32,670
thing I know inches below the surface of

825
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,060
the water

826
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:35,040
zipping just below and then when it

827
00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:38,250
emerges now it's joined by this second

828
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:41,430
object and they both are dipping in and

829
00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:43,710
out and then finally they disappear at

830
00:42:48,350 --> 00:42:45,660
the same time into the ocean and the

831
00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:48,360
camera is still searching for them and

832
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:51,540
because this is authentic footage and

833
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,490
nobody discounts the authenticity of the

834
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:55,920
footage because this is thermal footage

835
00:43:00,920 --> 00:42:59,010
that showed us a lot more information a

836
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:00,930
lot more data than just something that's

837
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:04,770
optically based and because that you

838
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:07,170
know this was was documented with with

839
00:43:14,330 --> 00:43:11,520
such a great precision to me this is

840
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:14,340
perhaps the most compelling evidence of

841
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:16,680
all that we have these things flying

842
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:19,190
around us which we cannot explain and so

843
00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:22,170
it is perplexing to me because over the

844
00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:24,660
years I have done everything I can to go

845
00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:26,990
out and study what different types of

846
00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:30,420
drones and balloons and gliders and all

847
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:33,030
that stuff look like and this thing

848
00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:35,430
whatever it was was not one of those in

849
00:43:43,610 --> 00:43:39,720
my opinion the other part of the footage

850
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:43,620
which again it's about provenance right

851
00:43:49,370 --> 00:43:46,440
and chain of command wasn't this shot by

852
00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:49,380
the Department of Homeland Security yes

853
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:52,500
yes it was and in fact the scientists

854
00:44:00,200 --> 00:43:55,860
who studied this were even able to break

855
00:44:02,990 --> 00:44:00,210
it right down to the kind of camera that

856
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:03,000
was used the kind of airplane that was

857
00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:06,450
used the kind of attachment I mean we

858
00:44:11,330 --> 00:44:07,980
know a great deal of technical

859
00:44:15,350 --> 00:44:11,340
information and all of this was freely

860
00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:15,360
released as a PDF to the general public

861
00:44:19,970 --> 00:44:18,180
you know into the public domain and so

862
00:44:22,580 --> 00:44:19,980
at any point you can still go to my

863
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:22,590
website Joshua P Warren comm and click

864
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:25,020
the news section and you'll see a link

865
00:44:29,330 --> 00:44:27,690
there to Oh UFOs or you can click a

866
00:44:31,450 --> 00:44:29,340
section called gallery of the strange

867
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,460
and you'll see the link to Oh

868
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:33,920
UFOs and when you click that you can see

869
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:36,290
the footage you can see my video report

870
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:38,450
on it you can read my release on and you

871
00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:41,960
can read that 162 page PDF and I don't

872
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,470
know what more could be done in order to

873
00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:48,560
verify and validate that this is truly

874
00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:50,360
something extraordinary it's an exotic

875
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:53,150
technology it came right into our

876
00:44:58,270 --> 00:44:55,670
restricted airspace without any care or

877
00:45:01,900 --> 00:44:58,280
consideration of our retaliation or our

878
00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:01,910
reaction and I think that again this is

879
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:03,980
the only sort of possible explanation

880
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,410
for why this has been more dismissed

881
00:45:11,650 --> 00:45:08,560
because it truly illustrates our

882
00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:11,660
vulnerabilities yeah and before we I

883
00:45:17,740 --> 00:45:13,670
totally agree with you and before we get

884
00:45:19,780 --> 00:45:17,750
to the time warp which man man man okay

885
00:45:21,790 --> 00:45:19,790
we're gonna spend some time on that but

886
00:45:24,670 --> 00:45:21,800
before we get to that I wanted to ask

887
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:24,680
you where do you think we are now in

888
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:26,450
these days of disclosure it's been a

889
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:28,430
pretty extraordinary ride over the last

890
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:31,370
seven months but it seems like to me

891
00:45:38,290 --> 00:45:35,090
from where I'm standing or sitting that

892
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:38,300
it is kind of tapered off a little bit

893
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:40,880
and I thought that we could have ridden

894
00:45:48,490 --> 00:45:44,630
this wave a little bit better where do

895
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:48,500
you think we are well you know I for one

896
00:45:55,810 --> 00:45:53,150
thing am amazed at how few people even

897
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:55,820
still know about that information being

898
00:46:00,130 --> 00:45:58,130
released I mean I encounter people every

899
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,140
day and I mentioned well you know the

900
00:46:05,020 --> 00:46:02,960
Pentagon disclosed blah blah blah and

901
00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:05,030
they're like huh know what you know and

902
00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:07,600
I have to fill them in best I can and

903
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:10,820
because even the mainstream media did

904
00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:14,150
not do a really fantastic job of

905
00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:16,520
elevating that to the level of national

906
00:46:22,990 --> 00:46:19,190
discussion that it deserves and so that

907
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:23,000
tells you something just about I guess

908
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,910
how still unfortunately dismissive many

909
00:46:31,150 --> 00:46:28,400
members of the mainstream media are for

910
00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:31,160
one reason or another but my feeling is

911
00:46:38,290 --> 00:46:35,020
that there is no logical case to be made

912
00:46:40,510 --> 00:46:38,300
for why that the government at any point

913
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:40,520
should ever actually release all of

914
00:46:44,839 --> 00:46:43,910
their their secrets I just can't I can't

915
00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:44,849
understand this and

916
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:46,440
which they would think that's a good

917
00:46:53,809 --> 00:46:49,890
idea but I believe there will be gradual

918
00:46:56,690 --> 00:46:53,819
instances where people are able to slip

919
00:46:59,059 --> 00:46:56,700
outside the boundaries of what they're

920
00:47:01,039 --> 00:46:59,069
supposed to talk about and and very

921
00:47:03,799 --> 00:47:01,049
quickly get something out there in the

922
00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:03,809
media and so we will get little bits and

923
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:06,180
pieces like this and little glimpses but

924
00:47:11,269 --> 00:47:07,890
I don't think that we're ever going to

925
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:11,279
have a full disclosure unless and until

926
00:47:16,969 --> 00:47:15,450
these beings themselves decide to make

927
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:16,979
themselves known because they obviously

928
00:47:22,219 --> 00:47:20,249
are holding the cards here and and but

929
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:22,229
then when it comes to that I also can't

930
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,729
see a good reason why they would want to

931
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:24,960
do that either

932
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:27,660
the aliens so to speak I mean as I've

933
00:47:32,029 --> 00:47:29,460
said before when I go hiking through the

934
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,039
woods I'm not you know sort of hidden

935
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:34,380
knocking on the bushes trying to prove

936
00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:36,450
to every squirrel and rabbit that humans

937
00:47:41,479 --> 00:47:39,390
exist it doesn't matter to me if those

938
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:41,489
animals know that in fact on the

939
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:43,529
contrary I usually try not to disturb

940
00:47:49,329 --> 00:47:46,410
them and so if we are indeed looking at

941
00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:49,339
visitations here from an advanced

942
00:47:55,969 --> 00:47:52,109
species whether they be interdimensional

943
00:47:58,219 --> 00:47:55,979
extraterrestrial or both then I can say

944
00:48:01,339 --> 00:47:58,229
that well I don't think that the people

945
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:01,349
are going to talk about it and and I

946
00:48:05,479 --> 00:48:03,569
don't think that the extraterrestrials

947
00:48:07,219 --> 00:48:05,489
themselves have any clear motivation

948
00:48:10,579 --> 00:48:07,229
that I can see to come out with it and

949
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:10,589
so we probably have to just sort of make

950
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,450
up our minds with with what's already

951
00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:14,160
available out there and what continues

952
00:48:21,410 --> 00:48:17,579
to seep out why do you think the the

953
00:48:25,579 --> 00:48:21,420
Pentagon what appears that the Pentagon

954
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:25,589
suddenly was freeing up you know this

955
00:48:30,769 --> 00:48:28,049
attitude not only to the UFO community

956
00:48:32,959 --> 00:48:30,779
but back to the rest of the world that

957
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:32,969
they were willing to discuss this

958
00:48:38,509 --> 00:48:35,339
situation why would they choose to do

959
00:48:41,959 --> 00:48:38,519
that now well I think it's really

960
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:41,969
interesting that President Trump just

961
00:48:48,769 --> 00:48:45,630
announced the formation of the space

962
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:48,779
force right and so if you look at that

963
00:48:54,829 --> 00:48:52,410
in retrospect you might think that they

964
00:48:57,650 --> 00:48:54,839
were they weren't sure what the reaction

965
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:57,660
would be and that they thought let's

966
00:49:00,589 --> 00:48:58,200
just

967
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:00,599
little release to indicate that there's

968
00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:02,550
some weird stuff flying around in outer

969
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:04,320
space that comes down once in a while

970
00:49:10,609 --> 00:49:07,730
and and just see if that's going to

971
00:49:13,099 --> 00:49:10,619
inspire people to get behind this idea

972
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:13,109
of a space force because I guarantee you

973
00:49:17,870 --> 00:49:15,930
if the president is talking about

974
00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:17,880
creating a space force now well

975
00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:20,040
something like that has already existed

976
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:23,460
for a long time sure and and so that to

977
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:26,010
me is probably the most telling an

978
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:28,440
insightful aspect of this that at the

979
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,849
time yeah we're scratching our heads

980
00:49:33,050 --> 00:49:31,440
like why would they do this other than

981
00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:33,060
you know get it you have some

982
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,430
disgruntled whistleblower types who want

983
00:49:39,650 --> 00:49:37,680
to get some credit for their work but

984
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:39,660
now that we have this space force being

985
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,900
developed it may have been an experiment

986
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:44,640
to see if that would help the people

987
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:47,570
support it what do you think ultimately

988
00:49:55,359 --> 00:49:51,450
the space force what do you envision it

989
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:55,369
as because I agree with you there's been

990
00:50:00,650 --> 00:49:58,050
something going on up there

991
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:00,660
secretly and covertly for a very long

992
00:50:06,890 --> 00:50:03,240
time there's no reason to disclose that

993
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:06,900
kind of stuff to the world but what do

994
00:50:13,940 --> 00:50:09,599
you think ultimately the space force is

995
00:50:16,609 --> 00:50:13,950
actually going to be well I mean you can

996
00:50:18,829 --> 00:50:16,619
say from just the most I guess strict

997
00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:18,839
and practical point of view that it's

998
00:50:25,339 --> 00:50:21,240
just an attempt to be able to you know

999
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,349
control a higher level of altitude when

1000
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,839
it comes to people being able to use spy

1001
00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:29,760
satellites and shoot off rockets and

1002
00:50:34,490 --> 00:50:31,859
that sort of thing but I feel that

1003
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:34,500
probably on a on a more conspiratorial

1004
00:50:42,099 --> 00:50:38,670
level I have seen over the years very

1005
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:42,109
strange things flying around at night

1006
00:50:46,550 --> 00:50:44,130
using third generation night-vision

1007
00:50:49,010 --> 00:50:46,560
goggles mm-hmm that I I know are not

1008
00:50:50,839 --> 00:50:49,020
satellites they're not space junk I mean

1009
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:50,849
those things you can pretty easily rule

1010
00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:53,369
out after a while and sometimes it looks

1011
00:50:59,720 --> 00:50:54,990
like they're interacting with each other

1012
00:51:04,609 --> 00:50:59,730
as if they're being controlled and so it

1013
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,619
may be that we we already have some

1014
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:06,240
spaceships up there with your you know

1015
00:51:10,849 --> 00:51:08,310
Buck Rogers types running around and

1016
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:10,859
occasionally getting into scuffles but I

1017
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:11,730
am open

1018
00:51:16,070 --> 00:51:14,250
to the idea and this is one that people

1019
00:51:21,020 --> 00:51:16,080
would say is the wackiest of all but I'm

1020
00:51:25,460 --> 00:51:21,030
open to the idea that we do work with

1021
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:25,470
some of these beings and that there may

1022
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:30,570
actually be some type of coalition if

1023
00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:32,730
you will or an attempt at a coalition in

1024
00:51:38,510 --> 00:51:35,430
outer space where we try to head off

1025
00:51:40,580 --> 00:51:38,520
some of these spacecraft from other

1026
00:51:42,890 --> 00:51:40,590
worlds that are coming here without

1027
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:42,900
being properly licensed sort of men and

1028
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:46,800
black style mm-hmm and and of course you

1029
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:48,930
know there has been a lot of talk about

1030
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:51,510
this for decades now especially the

1031
00:51:58,940 --> 00:51:54,510
Eisenhower may have had some arrangement

1032
00:52:01,849 --> 00:51:58,950
made with a downed et look I I'm open to

1033
00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:01,859
that possibility and and what I find is

1034
00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:03,990
sort of refreshing about all this is

1035
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,780
that you know well not too long ago just

1036
00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:09,420
pretty much when we were kids the

1037
00:52:13,070 --> 00:52:11,460
mainstream scientists would just chuckle

1038
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:13,080
and blow off the idea that there are

1039
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:15,510
even aliens out there now most of

1040
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:17,310
remains stream scientists say well odds

1041
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:19,260
are yeah they're out there there's a lot

1042
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:21,960
of space there's an unimaginable amount

1043
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:23,400
of space there are a lot of you know

1044
00:52:28,310 --> 00:52:26,609
rocks and planets and stars and that it

1045
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,320
would be you know more unlikely that

1046
00:52:32,810 --> 00:52:30,480
we're the only thing and so we are

1047
00:52:35,410 --> 00:52:32,820
seeing this gradual shift toward the

1048
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,420
idea that there there may be

1049
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:37,920
intelligence out there and I think that

1050
00:52:40,550 --> 00:52:39,510
a lot of these military folks are the

1051
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:40,560
ones who would have obviously

1052
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:43,050
encountered that first of all on the

1053
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:47,220
front lines when I think about mmm the

1054
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:49,050
space for it as soon as it was mentioned

1055
00:52:53,570 --> 00:52:50,940
I couldn't help but think of the movie

1056
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:53,580
Starship Troopers Yeah right no I'm not

1057
00:52:58,550 --> 00:52:56,460
being serious too and but this is that's

1058
00:53:00,680 --> 00:52:58,560
me but you know what I found really

1059
00:53:02,090 --> 00:53:00,690
strange I just kind of sat back Josh one

1060
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:02,100
thought you know what I'm not the only

1061
00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:05,010
one thinking this the hundreds of

1062
00:53:09,410 --> 00:53:06,780
millions of people around the world that

1063
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:09,420
saw that press conference thought the

1064
00:53:18,020 --> 00:53:14,210
exact same thing to you know force a

1065
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:18,030
sixth branch of the military all the

1066
00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:20,760
other branches are weaponized why

1067
00:53:25,790 --> 00:53:23,790
wouldn't the space force - and if you

1068
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:25,800
can't help but think about

1069
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:27,660
movie like Starship Troopers that that

1070
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:30,330
is actually what's going on is that is

1071
00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:33,810
that crazy thinking or quite possibly

1072
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:35,940
are we on the target with that kind of

1073
00:53:42,260 --> 00:53:38,940
thought well no I think it makes logical

1074
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:42,270
sense if you consider that the ultimate

1075
00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:47,010
goal of humankind is to survive long

1076
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:49,670
enough to possibly become a type 4

1077
00:53:56,780 --> 00:53:52,770
civilization on the Kardashev skill so

1078
00:54:00,530 --> 00:53:56,790
to just refresh the listeners I mean a

1079
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:00,540
type one civilization would be a planet

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00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:02,430
that's able to take full advantage of

1081
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:04,650
all of its resources and use them

1082
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:08,880
harmoniously and then a type 2 is one

1083
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:11,910
that would expand out to to do the same

1084
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:15,570
thing taking full advantage of the solar

1085
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:18,510
system and then type 3 is when you would

1086
00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:20,790
expand to do that in your galaxy and

1087
00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:23,430
then type 4 is where you travel beyond

1088
00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:26,100
your galaxy to other galaxies the star

1089
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:28,500
systems and and you start taking their

1090
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:31,170
resources and we're not even a type one

1091
00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:33,570
you know we are still a type zero here

1092
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:35,640
on this planet and we're a long way from

1093
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:38,130
becoming a type one but I think that is

1094
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,910
the ultimate goal and so there are our

1095
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:44,400
probably efforts that are being put in

1096
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:48,810
place already to prepare us to to start

1097
00:54:55,070 --> 00:54:51,330
moving out there when when we're ready

1098
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:55,080
and of course then there always is the

1099
00:55:00,110 --> 00:54:57,690
back-up plan that the the elite may have

1100
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:00,120
in order to save themselves by getting

1101
00:55:05,180 --> 00:55:01,890
off of this planet if something

1102
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:05,190
calamitous happens and so you know there

1103
00:55:08,780 --> 00:55:06,480
are a number of reasons that we might

1104
00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:08,790
want to have a force that could

1105
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:13,230
essentially if nothing else escort us to

1106
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:17,040
another place if things go awry here on

1107
00:55:23,090 --> 00:55:19,710
earth now we're gonna head to a break in

1108
00:55:28,570 --> 00:55:23,100
three minutes so I'll ask a simple

1109
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:28,580
question when the world gets that

1110
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,670
question answered about et contact and

1111
00:55:36,829 --> 00:55:34,799
are we alone in the universe when the

1112
00:55:40,699 --> 00:55:36,839
world gets the answer not our community

1113
00:55:43,699 --> 00:55:40,709
not Joshua P Warren but the world how do

1114
00:55:45,769 --> 00:55:43,709
you think it's gonna happen well for one

1115
00:55:48,939 --> 00:55:45,779
thing you know we still have people in

1116
00:55:53,749 --> 00:55:48,949
this world to believe the planet is flat

1117
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:53,759
so I mean you're never going to to get a

1118
00:55:59,199 --> 00:55:55,650
world in which every single person

1119
00:56:04,370 --> 00:55:59,209
agrees on that but I think that it is

1120
00:56:09,499 --> 00:56:04,380
it's unfortunate that we have become a

1121
00:56:12,769 --> 00:56:09,509
very paranoid Society and that's why we

1122
00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:12,779
see so much negativity being focused on

1123
00:56:18,529 --> 00:56:15,900
in the media it's scare mongering it's

1124
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:18,539
trying to control people and it works

1125
00:56:23,479 --> 00:56:21,420
which is why they perpetuate it and so I

1126
00:56:25,339 --> 00:56:23,489
think that you know I used to believe

1127
00:56:27,739 --> 00:56:25,349
that the whole war of the worlds'

1128
00:56:30,229 --> 00:56:27,749
scenario where everybody freaked out was

1129
00:56:31,759 --> 00:56:30,239
not giving us due credit but the more I

1130
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:31,769
like the longer I live and the more

1131
00:56:35,329 --> 00:56:33,839
people I meet I gotta be honest with you

1132
00:56:36,859 --> 00:56:35,339
Jimmy I still think there are a lot of

1133
00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:36,869
people who are gonna freak out and say

1134
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:39,660
these are demons this is the end times

1135
00:56:44,059 --> 00:56:42,209
you know this is Armageddon and they're

1136
00:56:46,579 --> 00:56:44,069
gonna they're not going to be able to to

1137
00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:46,589
function in an ordinary capacity and

1138
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:49,140
respect the authority of humans because

1139
00:56:54,109 --> 00:56:50,249
now they're just gonna look to the

1140
00:56:57,919 --> 00:56:54,119
authority of these et well although I

1141
00:57:00,410 --> 00:56:57,929
tend to agree with that I really do but

1142
00:57:02,269 --> 00:57:00,420
then the other part is with all of the

1143
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:02,279
mass media coverage that we had back on

1144
00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:06,420
December 16th we didn't have anarchy in

1145
00:57:11,660 --> 00:57:08,819
the streets the Vatican didn't collapse

1146
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:11,670
the New York Stock Exchange probably

1147
00:57:17,569 --> 00:57:14,609
grew that day and the world didn't fall

1148
00:57:20,269 --> 00:57:17,579
apart and I that I felt pretty good

1149
00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:20,279
about that well but a lot of people

1150
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:22,920
still are not willing to make that leap

1151
00:57:27,739 --> 00:57:25,410
that this is actually evidence of

1152
00:57:29,479 --> 00:57:27,749
extraterrestrials they'd rather think

1153
00:57:31,939 --> 00:57:29,489
that this is some kind of secret

1154
00:57:34,339 --> 00:57:31,949
man-made technology it's the Russians or

1155
00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:34,349
the North Koreans or whoever now we know

1156
00:57:39,140 --> 00:57:36,660
that that is not technologically

1157
00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:39,150
feasible but if a lot of people say if

1158
00:57:42,919 --> 00:57:40,380
you're going to look at Occam's razor

1159
00:57:46,249 --> 00:57:42,929
and what's most likely right more likely

1160
00:57:48,590 --> 00:57:46,259
that it's that than the et I can't argue

1161
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:48,600
with that let's take a break right here

1162
00:57:52,180 --> 00:57:50,970
guests tonight on this beautiful world

1163
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:52,190
UFO day

1164
00:57:57,860 --> 00:57:55,370
Joshua P Warren now when we come back

1165
00:58:00,560 --> 00:57:57,870
we're gonna go straight to it we're

1166
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:00,570
gonna talk about this this Fox News

1167
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:02,910
article today about Joshua's discovery

1168
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:05,910
right outside of Las Vegas Nevada Josh

1169
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:07,800
stay right there man I can't wait to

1170
00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:08,610
talk about this

1171
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:10,950
this is fade to black I'm yours to be

1172
00:58:15,550 --> 00:58:13,530
Church we'll be right back with Joshua P

1173
00:58:33,740 --> 00:58:15,560
Warren stay with us

1174
00:58:37,740 --> 00:58:35,820
this is fade to black

1175
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:37,750
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:41,440
radio network and kgr a the global radio

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00:58:48,780 --> 00:58:45,880
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1179
00:58:54,270 --> 00:58:52,180
Van Buren Arkansas does your basement or

1180
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:54,280
crawlspace have a damp musty smell well

1181
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:56,050
watch out that's a sign of too much

1182
00:59:00,030 --> 00:58:58,210
moisture and not enough ventilation and

1183
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:00,040
that can mean increased mold growth and

1184
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:02,170
the build-up of harmful toxins and gases

1185
00:59:06,570 --> 00:59:04,450
don't bother with a dehumidifier it just

1186
00:59:08,370 --> 00:59:06,580
circulates the same unhealthy air now

1187
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:08,380
there's a better way to remove these

1188
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,270
dangers and odors it's with the

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computerized wave moisture control unit

1190
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that reduces moisture and expels

1191
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:16,090
pollutants we replaced our old

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dehumidifier with the wave unit and in

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Solutions

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01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:02,280
planet and you're listening to my good

1206
01:00:07,850 --> 01:00:05,280
friend Jimmy Church fade to black

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01:00:36,530 --> 01:00:34,620
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[Music]

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[Applause]

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01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:07,620
all right welcome back happy UFO day

1220
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:10,710
world UFO day

1221
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:13,480
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today our guest tonight is Joshua P

1230
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:37,620
Warren and Joshua on this world UFO day

1231
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:40,810
that's an incredible story that was

1232
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:46,270
broke by Fox and it came I came didn't

1233
01:01:55,050 --> 01:01:51,040
come via mysterious universe no that

1234
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:55,060
story was it was originally covered by

1235
01:02:00,060 --> 01:01:58,000
the local Fox affiliate Fox 5 here in

1236
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:00,070
Las Vegas and then over the past six

1237
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:03,670
days it has been taking off it's been

1238
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:05,920
everywhere it made Newsweek it made

1239
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:10,110
Drudge Inside Edition CBS Los Angeles

1240
01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:12,790
reddit I mean that's that's why I was

1241
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:14,230
saying at the beginning of the show that

1242
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:17,890
over the past six days that I have just

1243
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:21,730
been slammed and and that's why that you

1244
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:24,550
know today it appearing on the main page

1245
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:27,490
of Fox News is just the latest the

1246
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:30,850
latest distribution and so I don't know

1247
01:02:35,220 --> 01:02:32,470
where it's going to continue going but

1248
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:35,230
it really took me by surprise I mean I

1249
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:36,880
thought people would be interested in

1250
01:02:41,490 --> 01:02:38,710
this but the reaction has really been

1251
01:02:43,110 --> 01:02:41,500
unexpected now what okay so for those

1252
01:02:43,590 --> 01:02:43,120
that haven't read the story and you're

1253
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:43,600
right

1254
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:45,850
by the way so today when I read the Fox

1255
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:50,710
story and I go and I do my vetting a 12

1256
01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:52,810
you know I just want to see how it's how

1257
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:55,240
the legs are doing right and it's

1258
01:03:00,480 --> 01:02:58,570
everywhere man and I thought oh geez you

1259
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:00,490
know

1260
01:03:06,030 --> 01:03:03,310
Joshua's got to be losing his mind and

1261
01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:06,040
he told me this a few days ago and it

1262
01:03:11,460 --> 01:03:08,950
just it just took off man and I'm

1263
01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:11,470
excited that the world wants to know

1264
01:03:16,490 --> 01:03:14,800
about this now we kind of got to start

1265
01:03:19,070 --> 01:03:16,500
with the basics what

1266
01:03:23,060 --> 01:03:19,080
happened what are we talking about and

1267
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:23,070
and what is the DT meter yeah

1268
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:24,690
and this actually does tie in very

1269
01:03:31,340 --> 01:03:27,510
nicely with UFOs as well that's right

1270
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:31,350
yeah so um you know I spend a good deal

1271
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:33,930
of time here in Las Vegas last year I

1272
01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:37,200
was here shooting a television program

1273
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:39,630
and then this year I was back shooting

1274
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:41,730
another TV show and I produced an event

1275
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:44,640
here and so I finally decided to just go

1276
01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:47,250
ahead and get a condo here so that I can

1277
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:49,950
easily spend part of my time here every

1278
01:03:57,230 --> 01:03:55,440
year and I had never been to area 51 and

1279
01:04:00,980 --> 01:03:57,240
so I was looking for an opportunity to

1280
01:04:04,790 --> 01:04:00,990
go up there and it was just fortuitous

1281
01:04:08,270 --> 01:04:04,800
for me to be contacted by a Silicon

1282
01:04:11,330 --> 01:04:08,280
Valley engineer named Ronald Heath who

1283
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:11,340
was excited to tell me about a new meter

1284
01:04:16,610 --> 01:04:14,790
that he had created now Ron Heath has to

1285
01:04:17,930 --> 01:04:16,620
turn doubted he'd emailed me on a number

1286
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:17,940
of occasions here and there over the

1287
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:21,900
years he's a great technician and and he

1288
01:04:27,650 --> 01:04:23,610
has developed all kinds of interesting

1289
01:04:30,220 --> 01:04:27,660
electronic circuits but he has always

1290
01:04:32,990 --> 01:04:30,230
been fascinated with the x-files and

1291
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:33,000
there is this one episode in particular

1292
01:04:38,030 --> 01:04:35,130
he said that he thought was cool where

1293
01:04:41,450 --> 01:04:38,040
Mulder takes out a stopwatch and he

1294
01:04:43,850 --> 01:04:41,460
places it by his car and then he walks

1295
01:04:46,340 --> 01:04:43,860
to a UFO hot spot with a second

1296
01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:46,350
stopwatch and then later he compares the

1297
01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:48,180
two to see if there's any difference

1298
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:50,940
between them the idea being that if

1299
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:53,700
these UFOs in the area might be using

1300
01:05:00,380 --> 01:04:57,150
some gravity warping technology then

1301
01:05:03,710 --> 01:05:00,390
that should affect the flow of time to

1302
01:05:06,530 --> 01:05:03,720
some degree and so he was looking for a

1303
01:05:08,690 --> 01:05:06,540
a user-friendly device that would allow

1304
01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:08,700
people to pretty much replicate that and

1305
01:05:15,290 --> 01:05:11,220
so he made what's called a differential

1306
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:15,300
time rate meter or DT meter and it's

1307
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:18,240
actually quite simple to use on one end

1308
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:20,310
you have the meter which has got a

1309
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:22,710
digital display that says zero point

1310
01:05:29,690 --> 01:05:26,310
zero zero zero zero zero and then that

1311
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:29,700
is hooked to a 100 foot cable and on the

1312
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:30,480
end of the

1313
01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:33,210
Abell is a sensor that is constantly

1314
01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:35,990
sending a signal back to the meter and

1315
01:05:42,830 --> 01:05:39,420
that signal is always supposed to get

1316
01:05:47,060 --> 01:05:42,840
there at the same rate of time at the

1317
01:05:49,130 --> 01:05:47,070
same place and in fact the only way that

1318
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:49,140
should deviate is if something major

1319
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:50,970
happened like a black hole approached

1320
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:53,460
earth or something along those lines so

1321
01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:55,710
he asked me if I would like to test this

1322
01:06:03,320 --> 01:05:58,980
thing out because he has had two of them

1323
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:03,330
running for months logging their data 24

1324
01:06:09,380 --> 01:06:05,310
hours a day in California and he's never

1325
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:09,390
recorded one anomaly one deviation not

1326
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:12,690
once and and in fact he kind of felt

1327
01:06:16,010 --> 01:06:14,250
like he had created a meter that's

1328
01:06:17,660 --> 01:06:16,020
supposed to really detect nothing you

1329
01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:17,670
know it's always supposed to give a

1330
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:20,280
normal zero reading and it's got a good

1331
01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:22,650
margin of error built into it as well so

1332
01:06:26,690 --> 01:06:25,140
I got a hold of this thing and I became

1333
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:26,700
fascinated with it I thought well you

1334
01:06:31,340 --> 01:06:29,730
know this may be a cool thing for me to

1335
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:31,350
take to area 51 I'm the first

1336
01:06:35,710 --> 01:06:32,970
investigator who's going to have the

1337
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:35,720
opportunity to use this in the field and

1338
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:38,730
of course I a couple years ago I was a

1339
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:40,530
speaker at the International UFO

1340
01:06:45,110 --> 01:06:43,440
Congress where a Bob Lazar spoke onstage

1341
01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:45,120
and of course he's a controversial

1342
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:46,860
character but Bob Lazar

1343
01:06:51,410 --> 01:06:48,900
he stated that when he was working at

1344
01:06:53,540 --> 01:06:51,420
area 51 he was tasked with

1345
01:06:56,210 --> 01:06:53,550
back-engineering these engines that

1346
01:06:58,100 --> 01:06:56,220
would manipulate gravity and time that

1347
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:58,110
for example you could take one engine

1348
01:07:02,300 --> 01:06:59,280
that wasn't much bigger than a

1349
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:02,310
basketball and you could put a candle

1350
01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:04,530
next to it and the candle flame would

1351
01:07:08,540 --> 01:07:06,510
freeze in midair the flickering would

1352
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:08,550
stop that sort of thing so I thought

1353
01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:11,010
well this meter is so sensitive

1354
01:07:16,430 --> 01:07:13,140
perhaps if I make a trip hundreds of

1355
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:16,440
miles north up to area 51 and stop

1356
01:07:22,580 --> 01:07:18,450
occasionally along the way to take

1357
01:07:24,380 --> 01:07:22,590
readings I can compare and see if you

1358
01:07:25,790 --> 01:07:24,390
start to get anything weird as you get

1359
01:07:28,490 --> 01:07:25,800
closer to area 51

1360
01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:28,500
so I frankly had envisioned that it

1361
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:30,720
would be normal normal normal and then

1362
01:07:34,190 --> 01:07:32,610
maybe the the farther north I got

1363
01:07:35,690 --> 01:07:34,200
suddenly something would you know I get

1364
01:07:37,850 --> 01:07:35,700
a deviation that's what I was thinking

1365
01:07:41,450 --> 01:07:37,860
well yeah well let me jump in because

1366
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:41,460
this is what I know what you just stated

1367
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:43,650
but what were your honest

1368
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:44,130
X

1369
01:07:50,090 --> 01:07:48,960
tations well I know that as he was

1370
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:50,100
telling me the guy who built it himself

1371
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:53,310
was telling me it's not supposed to pick

1372
01:08:00,380 --> 01:07:56,730
up any type of anomaly so I if I had to

1373
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,390
bet on it and I am a gambling man then I

1374
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:02,400
would have bet that it's not going to

1375
01:08:06,410 --> 01:08:03,690
show anything because I had already

1376
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:06,420
tested it on a number of occasions right

1377
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:09,440
within my neighborhood in Las Vegas and

1378
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:12,210
and it always worked very reliably it's

1379
01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:16,380
easy to calibrate I'd never gotten it

1380
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:18,450
one single weird reading so I wasn't

1381
01:08:21,980 --> 01:08:20,010
expecting that and if anything and I

1382
01:08:23,420 --> 01:08:21,990
thought there was a better chance that I

1383
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:23,430
would go up to area 51 with night-vision

1384
01:08:28,850 --> 01:08:25,050
goggles and maybe see something weird

1385
01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:28,860
flying around right right right so so my

1386
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:31,500
wife and I was just the two of us we

1387
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:34,710
took a trip to area 51 we stayed

1388
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:36,810
overnight you know you for those who

1389
01:08:40,580 --> 01:08:38,130
aren't familiar with the lay of the land

1390
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:40,590
there's this the town of Rachel up there

1391
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,510
where you have the little alien and you

1392
01:08:46,310 --> 01:08:44,640
can go past that the town of Rachel is

1393
01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:46,320
the closest one to what they call area

1394
01:08:50,540 --> 01:08:48,030
51 but then there's another town along

1395
01:08:52,430 --> 01:08:50,550
the way called Alamo where we decided to

1396
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:52,440
stay it's a little closer to

1397
01:08:57,530 --> 01:08:54,750
civilization for the night but anyway

1398
01:09:00,500 --> 01:08:57,540
point is on the way up there and back I

1399
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:00,510
was taking readings and the only place

1400
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:05,310
that I got anything unusual was at this

1401
01:09:11,570 --> 01:09:08,370
sort of nondescript spot on the side of

1402
01:09:16,930 --> 01:09:11,580
the road about 20 miles north of Vegas

1403
01:09:19,670 --> 01:09:16,940
between I 15 and Route 93 and in fact

1404
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:19,680
heading north we would have pulled over

1405
01:09:24,020 --> 01:09:22,170
to take a measurement sooner but they

1406
01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:24,030
were doing road construction and there

1407
01:09:27,470 --> 01:09:25,620
were traffic cones on the side of the

1408
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:27,480
road and so that was creating an

1409
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:29,970
obstacle for us for a ways so as soon as

1410
01:09:32,690 --> 01:09:31,320
we had a clearing we'll be pulled over

1411
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:32,700
on the side of the road I took out a

1412
01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:34,080
bunch of instruments I had Geiger

1413
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:37,380
counters and Trifield naturally a meters

1414
01:09:42,980 --> 01:09:40,080
and such and everything was normal so

1415
01:09:45,610 --> 01:09:42,990
yeah we stretched this coil out and all

1416
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:45,620
of a sudden boom I get this reading

1417
01:09:52,990 --> 01:09:49,040
showing that according to this meter

1418
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:53,000
time has actually slowed down by 20

1419
01:09:57,900 --> 01:09:56,250
microseconds now what that means is that

1420
01:10:01,080 --> 01:09:57,910
if you take a second

1421
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:01,090
and you split it into a hundred thousand

1422
01:10:07,650 --> 01:10:04,560
pieces one of those little slices is a

1423
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:07,660
microsecond and so the meter showed that

1424
01:10:12,690 --> 01:10:09,820
time had actually slowed for 20

1425
01:10:15,540 --> 01:10:12,700
microseconds I was like what I mean it

1426
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:15,550
was immediately astounding because I had

1427
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:17,290
never seen it do anything else and I

1428
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:18,970
never saw it ever do anything else like

1429
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:21,850
that so I took a note of that of course

1430
01:10:27,540 --> 01:10:24,430
and I recorded everything and then when

1431
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:27,550
I got back I contacted Ron Heath and he

1432
01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:29,410
flipped out he couldn't believe it I

1433
01:10:32,250 --> 01:10:30,670
mean he said I you know again I've been

1434
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:32,260
running these things for months and I've

1435
01:10:39,390 --> 01:10:35,920
never seen anything like that and so it

1436
01:10:41,820 --> 01:10:39,400
just so happens that that spot in the

1437
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:41,830
desert where I got in this reading is

1438
01:10:47,450 --> 01:10:44,830
one of the most prominent UFO hot spots

1439
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:47,460
around Las Vegas where some of the most

1440
01:10:53,340 --> 01:10:50,710
extraordinary lights are filmed at night

1441
01:10:55,950 --> 01:10:53,350
and if you want to see some examples of

1442
01:10:58,530 --> 01:10:55,960
this if you go to my website Joshua P

1443
01:11:01,080 --> 01:10:58,540
Warren comm you can click a link at the

1444
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:01,090
top to my report on this I did a video

1445
01:11:07,050 --> 01:11:03,250
report just like I did with the O UFOs

1446
01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:07,060
and I actually show some of the UFO

1447
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:09,400
footage that has been captured in this

1448
01:11:16,440 --> 01:11:13,350
same area and I felt to myself well wow

1449
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:16,450
wouldn't it be something if as we

1450
01:11:20,670 --> 01:11:18,610
continue this and this is the very first

1451
01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:20,680
step by the way because there are people

1452
01:11:24,810 --> 01:11:23,140
who are criticizing me saying well come

1453
01:11:27,690 --> 01:11:24,820
on you just have one point of data well

1454
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:27,700
that's true but that's how you start the

1455
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:30,490
investigation you know I am now going to

1456
01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:33,250
travel all around this area seeing if

1457
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:35,200
there are other anomalies which might

1458
01:11:39,810 --> 01:11:37,330
also coincide with places where people

1459
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:39,820
are seeing UFOs and for that matter

1460
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:41,890
having any kind of paranormal experience

1461
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:45,130
because I have believed for many years

1462
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:48,370
that time is an integral component to

1463
01:11:53,130 --> 01:11:50,890
understanding these strange phenomena in

1464
01:11:55,530 --> 01:11:53,140
fact 10 years ago I wrote a book called

1465
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:55,540
the secret wisdom of kukulcan in which I

1466
01:11:59,010 --> 01:11:56,710
posited something called the

1467
01:12:00,720 --> 01:11:59,020
paratemporal loop hypothesis which sort

1468
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:00,730
of looked at the relationship between

1469
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:04,510
time and and UFOs and cryptids and

1470
01:12:10,290 --> 01:12:08,320
ghosts and ESP and all that stuff so so

1471
01:12:11,550 --> 01:12:10,300
basically I put this little report

1472
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:11,560
together mainly

1473
01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:13,510
to keep my audience informed because I

1474
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:16,150
have a daily podcast that I do just on

1475
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:18,130
my website I have a good deal of

1476
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:20,110
listeners and I keep them informed and

1477
01:12:25,620 --> 01:12:22,510
so I put it together mainly to show them

1478
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:25,630
what happened and then I got contacted

1479
01:12:31,410 --> 01:12:29,290
by the news because they had heard me on

1480
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:31,420
coast to coast am mentioned that I was

1481
01:12:36,750 --> 01:12:33,880
going to do some experiments in the area

1482
01:12:39,450 --> 01:12:36,760
and I shared it with them they wanted to

1483
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:39,460
go back out to the spot I showed them

1484
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:42,880
exactly what I did and they put this you

1485
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:44,530
know nice segments together and then all

1486
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:47,050
of a sudden boom that thing just went

1487
01:12:51,420 --> 01:12:49,210
all over the world and that's why I'm

1488
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:51,430
saying that I think that this is how any

1489
01:12:55,620 --> 01:12:53,530
kind of disclosure that happens will

1490
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:55,630
probably happen because nowadays it is

1491
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:58,810
so easy if if a story has got some real

1492
01:13:06,930 --> 01:13:01,360
legs for it to blow up and go all over

1493
01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:06,940
the the planet now 20 microseconds two

1494
01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:09,910
things come to mind one is it doesn't

1495
01:13:16,020 --> 01:13:12,550
sound like much the other side of it is

1496
01:13:18,990 --> 01:13:16,030
holy crap that's a ginormous amount of

1497
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:19,000
time or yeah in the scientific sense

1498
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:24,250
what do you think is going on well if I

1499
01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:26,850
am going to predict for what it's worth

1500
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:31,870
that we really have many more of these

1501
01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:33,970
little anomalies around Earth than we

1502
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:36,940
even think we do one of the reasons I

1503
01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:39,550
say that is because up until now most

1504
01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:41,950
people have not had access to a

1505
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:43,870
user-friendly device that they can take

1506
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:46,210
out to do measurements now that this

1507
01:13:50,010 --> 01:13:48,640
device exists and people are going to

1508
01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:50,020
start running around and measuring

1509
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:51,910
things I think we're gonna find all

1510
01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:53,920
kinds of little anomalies around planet

1511
01:13:58,590 --> 01:13:55,390
Earth and that shouldn't be that

1512
01:14:03,000 --> 01:13:58,600
surprising because NASA has documented

1513
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:03,010
this I mean in 2004 they had a project

1514
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:05,890
called gravity probe B where they went

1515
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:07,690
around the earth and they were measuring

1516
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:09,970
the curvature of space-time around the

1517
01:14:16,710 --> 01:14:13,330
earth and of course it's it's uneven I

1518
01:14:19,260 --> 01:14:16,720
mean that's why if you go to Google and

1519
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:19,270
you type in NASA gravity map you'll see

1520
01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:21,610
these maps that are color-coded and red

1521
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:25,240
and blue and that's because some

1522
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:28,780
is our our weaker on earth to have a

1523
01:14:32,970 --> 01:14:30,310
weaker gravitational field they're

1524
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:32,980
coated in blue some places are stronger

1525
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:35,710
which are coated in red or orange and

1526
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:38,140
what you tend to find is that places

1527
01:14:42,330 --> 01:14:39,760
where you have a weaker gravitational

1528
01:14:45,390 --> 01:14:42,340
field we have more reports of paranormal

1529
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:45,400
activity so again this is not completely

1530
01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:48,850
earth-shattering the idea that the space

1531
01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:51,160
and time is inconsistent around planet

1532
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:53,470
Earth it's just weird to think that you

1533
01:14:59,250 --> 01:14:56,890
can go to one spot and in a moment boom

1534
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,260
something happens that changes the flow

1535
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,640
of time and I guess you could say

1536
01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:01,840
technically speaking

1537
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:04,270
even though 20 microseconds is a very

1538
01:15:08,460 --> 01:15:06,490
very small period of time I think you

1539
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:08,470
could say that we sort of traveled back

1540
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:10,570
in time for 20 microseconds you know

1541
01:15:15,870 --> 01:15:12,640
that's exactly what happened there's no

1542
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:15,880
other way to explain it and the fact is

1543
01:15:21,090 --> 01:15:18,400
very simple it should not happen it's

1544
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:21,100
it's really that simple yeah that's

1545
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:24,250
right it should not happen again this

1546
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:26,830
device is you know it's a well made

1547
01:15:30,270 --> 01:15:28,630
device it's been calibrated is it

1548
01:15:32,460 --> 01:15:30,280
possible that there's some problem with

1549
01:15:34,230 --> 01:15:32,470
the device well certainly anything's

1550
01:15:36,180 --> 01:15:34,240
possible I mean that's why we continue

1551
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:36,190
doing these experiments but what I can

1552
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:38,890
tell you for now is that it is always

1553
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:41,650
behaved exactly as it ought to and so

1554
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:43,810
for this to happen at this spot where

1555
01:15:48,860 --> 01:15:45,730
people are seeing UFOs makes me think

1556
01:15:54,210 --> 01:15:48,870
one of two things is going on either

1557
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:54,220
there is some kind of technology that is

1558
01:15:59,520 --> 01:15:57,330
exotic that's being at least

1559
01:16:02,970 --> 01:15:59,530
experimented with or something like that

1560
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:02,980
in that particular area north of Vegas

1561
01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:05,440
I'm on the way to area 51 which could

1562
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:09,780
create this or there are UFOs zipping by

1563
01:16:15,410 --> 01:16:12,130
occasionally that give you a little blip

1564
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:15,420
or that this is just a natural property

1565
01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:18,250
of planet Earth and that you have places

1566
01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:20,470
like the Bermuda Triangle you have

1567
01:16:23,220 --> 01:16:22,030
places like Brown Mountain with the

1568
01:16:25,410 --> 01:16:23,230
Brown Mountain lights are seen in

1569
01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:25,420
Western North Carolina where these

1570
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:28,660
lights will often appear at certain

1571
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,270
times that give you the impression you

1572
01:16:36,780 --> 01:16:33,760
might be glimpsing or peering into

1573
01:16:37,799 --> 01:16:36,790
another dimension and so perhaps when

1574
01:16:39,929 --> 01:16:37,809
this sort of

1575
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:39,939
wavering occurs it's almost like a

1576
01:16:45,959 --> 01:16:42,489
spacetime storm that might occur once in

1577
01:16:47,969 --> 01:16:45,969
a while on planet earth it has its own

1578
01:16:49,770 --> 01:16:47,979
form of energy and you're able to get a

1579
01:16:52,350 --> 01:16:49,780
glimpse of that well and then you have

1580
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:52,360
other special sites of course you know

1581
01:16:57,659 --> 01:16:56,320
like Joshua Tree or ESET e Ranch or the

1582
01:17:01,799 --> 01:16:57,669
Giza Plateau

1583
01:17:03,509 --> 01:17:01,809
Stonehenge Machu Picchu where there

1584
01:17:05,939 --> 01:17:03,519
might be something interesting going on

1585
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:05,949
too as well do you plan on on traveling

1586
01:17:12,770 --> 01:17:08,320
to these other special sites oh I

1587
01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:12,780
certainly do in fact Bordeaux Rico Rico

1588
01:17:19,049 --> 01:17:15,880
yeah I mean I now can can essentially go

1589
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:19,059
back and revisit all of these places

1590
01:17:22,799 --> 01:17:21,130
that I've studied throughout my career

1591
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:22,809
if you want to call it that as a

1592
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:25,090
paranormal investigator and that's

1593
01:17:28,799 --> 01:17:26,800
really exciting because you get to the

1594
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:28,809
point sometimes where you say well I

1595
01:17:33,029 --> 01:17:31,449
only have so many tools to work with you

1596
01:17:34,770 --> 01:17:33,039
know you got your electromagnetic field

1597
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:34,780
meters your electro static stuff your

1598
01:17:40,259 --> 01:17:37,570
Geiger counters you've got your infrared

1599
01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:40,269
cameras etc etc everybody kind of has

1600
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:43,780
access to the same stuff but now we have

1601
01:17:48,389 --> 01:17:46,239
something new that we can take you out

1602
01:17:51,209 --> 01:17:48,399
that we can experiment with and this is

1603
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:51,219
all experimental but the very fact that

1604
01:17:55,229 --> 01:17:53,050
there's been this it just giant

1605
01:17:56,279 --> 01:17:55,239
explosion of international interests

1606
01:17:59,060 --> 01:17:56,289
that I mean this has been covered in

1607
01:18:03,959 --> 01:17:59,070
China and Russia and all over the place

1608
01:18:05,819 --> 01:18:03,969
it shows you that people may be a little

1609
01:18:10,739 --> 01:18:05,829
wishy-washy or perhaps even a little

1610
01:18:12,389 --> 01:18:10,749
burned out when it comes to UFOs and and

1611
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:12,399
ghosts and things like that because they

1612
01:18:15,839 --> 01:18:14,110
get fatigued they get frustrated that

1613
01:18:19,549 --> 01:18:15,849
they're not being told more and you know

1614
01:18:22,259 --> 01:18:19,559
they move on but this is something that

1615
01:18:25,139 --> 01:18:22,269
captures a lot of people's imaginations

1616
01:18:27,389 --> 01:18:25,149
whether they be mainstream scientists or

1617
01:18:30,330 --> 01:18:27,399
they just be you know hobbyists and

1618
01:18:33,109 --> 01:18:30,340
amateur explorers because everybody

1619
01:18:36,689 --> 01:18:33,119
realizes that this is one of the most

1620
01:18:39,899 --> 01:18:36,699
extraordinary aspects of reality that

1621
01:18:43,469 --> 01:18:39,909
you know Einstein helped to introduce us

1622
01:18:46,139 --> 01:18:43,479
to over a hundred years ago and at first

1623
01:18:47,969 --> 01:18:46,149
everybody thought he was a wacko and it

1624
01:18:49,739 --> 01:18:47,979
turns out they were able to prove again

1625
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:49,749
and again experimentally that he was

1626
01:18:52,230 --> 01:18:50,950
correct so

1627
01:18:55,230 --> 01:18:52,240
now we're realizing okay there's

1628
01:18:57,660 --> 01:18:55,240
something to this this idea that time is

1629
01:18:59,880 --> 01:18:57,670
a flexible thing and that's a weird

1630
01:19:01,680 --> 01:18:59,890
concept and that might give us some

1631
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:01,690
answers to some of these questions by

1632
01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:03,790
looking at them from a different and new

1633
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:06,670
perspective were you able to repeat I

1634
01:19:11,780 --> 01:19:08,710
want to go back actually to what you

1635
01:19:15,930 --> 01:19:11,790
said it could be maybe the meter

1636
01:19:18,180 --> 01:19:15,940
misfired did you go up the road and it

1637
01:19:20,370 --> 01:19:18,190
ran correctly and did you come back to

1638
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:20,380
point you're calling it Vista right I

1639
01:19:29,370 --> 01:19:23,170
think yeah the Vegas interstate time

1640
01:19:32,370 --> 01:19:29,380
anomaly yeah so did you did you test and

1641
01:19:35,340 --> 01:19:32,380
confirm retest oh yeah absolutely I

1642
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:35,350
tested it over and over on the way there

1643
01:19:41,390 --> 01:19:37,870
and back and then again when I went back

1644
01:19:44,370 --> 01:19:41,400
with the television news crew and

1645
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:44,380
everything was normal so it just goes to

1646
01:19:51,810 --> 01:19:46,450
show that you know this was truly an

1647
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:51,820
anomaly now I believe that because the

1648
01:19:57,330 --> 01:19:55,120
meter worked so well and every other

1649
01:19:59,570 --> 01:19:57,340
instance and not just mine but the

1650
01:20:02,550 --> 01:19:59,580
others that exists in California and

1651
01:20:04,890 --> 01:20:02,560
because that we already know thanks to

1652
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:04,900
scientists at NASA and some of the work

1653
01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:06,730
by Einstein and Stephen Hawking that

1654
01:20:12,750 --> 01:20:09,790
time is flexible then it's not really

1655
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:12,760
that shocking for me to think that this

1656
01:20:17,850 --> 01:20:15,010
was how it's being presented in the

1657
01:20:21,210 --> 01:20:17,860
media this was in fact a documentation

1658
01:20:23,010 --> 01:20:21,220
of a time anomaly and you know the first

1659
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:23,020
step in the scientific method is to

1660
01:20:28,710 --> 01:20:25,570
observe and so this is my first

1661
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:28,720
opportunity to go out and collect some

1662
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:30,250
data but I'm going to continue doing

1663
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:34,570
that there was years and years ago on

1664
01:20:43,140 --> 01:20:38,710
the show I had a caller that told us a

1665
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:43,150
story on vacation I'll tell you the very

1666
01:20:49,290 --> 01:20:45,850
very abridged version of it so they go

1667
01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:49,300
out there at a point at a viewpoint

1668
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:51,280
where there's a sign in front of them

1669
01:21:00,270 --> 01:20:55,150
and she's reading the sign you know Park

1670
01:21:02,250 --> 01:21:00,280
Service at this point you know in 1860

1671
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:02,260
there was something that happened across

1672
01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:03,890
this river

1673
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:06,320
and she says while she was standing

1674
01:21:11,770 --> 01:21:08,510
there she looks across the river and she

1675
01:21:14,380 --> 01:21:11,780
sees a reenactment going on covered

1676
01:21:16,810 --> 01:21:14,390
wagons a couple of campfires some

1677
01:21:19,420 --> 01:21:16,820
cooking some families some things some

1678
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:19,430
horses right and she thought wow that

1679
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:21,170
looks that's so cool

1680
01:21:26,290 --> 01:21:24,050
they're reenacting what I'm reading on

1681
01:21:28,510 --> 01:21:26,300
this point right on this plate you know

1682
01:21:31,690 --> 01:21:28,520
on this what do you called Motta's stand

1683
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:31,700
and very cool so she goes turns around

1684
01:21:36,130 --> 01:21:34,730
to go get her family and to you know

1685
01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:36,140
show him what's going on across the

1686
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:37,760
river for this reenactment the family

1687
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:41,120
comes back she looks it's gone it's gone

1688
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,730
yeah the covered wagons are gone the

1689
01:21:47,710 --> 01:21:45,920
campfires are gone the smoke is gone the

1690
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:47,720
horses are gone and it was just a minute

1691
01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:52,070
later it could this be evidence of what

1692
01:21:57,970 --> 01:21:55,190
you have discovered oh I believe so

1693
01:22:00,940 --> 01:21:57,980
because you know when I started out

1694
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:00,950
writing books many of my books were

1695
01:22:06,340 --> 01:22:04,610
about ghosts including a book I

1696
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:06,350
published called how to hunt ghosts in

1697
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:09,110
2003 was a Simon & Schuster publication

1698
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:12,080
and I broke down different types of

1699
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:15,440
ghosts and one of them is associated

1700
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:18,770
with time warps time slips because you

1701
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:22,010
know it's one thing if someone sees what

1702
01:22:27,790 --> 01:22:24,800
appears to be a person or an apparition

1703
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:27,800
it's out of its place and time it's

1704
01:22:34,300 --> 01:22:30,170
another thing to see an entire setting

1705
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:34,310
so that is to say instead of seeing this

1706
01:22:38,980 --> 01:22:36,770
the creepy Specter standing in the back

1707
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:38,990
bedroom you walk in and the entire

1708
01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:41,120
bedroom looks different as it did in the

1709
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:43,580
1800s for a second and there may even be

1710
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:45,110
an occasion where the person that you're

1711
01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:49,280
looking at appears to to see you as well

1712
01:22:56,260 --> 01:22:53,180
and so this is indeed a very interesting

1713
01:22:57,730 --> 01:22:56,270
type of anomaly in fact I've talked to a

1714
01:23:02,770 --> 01:22:57,740
number of people who personally

1715
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:02,780
experienced this and it may be that you

1716
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:06,170
know we have to accept that the human

1717
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:09,050
brain which is the most mysterious thing

1718
01:23:14,290 --> 01:23:12,410
that we can comprehend I guess

1719
01:23:17,410 --> 01:23:14,300
is really the product of a bunch of

1720
01:23:18,580 --> 01:23:17,420
subatomic particles sort of firing and

1721
01:23:20,740 --> 01:23:18,590
crackling all the time

1722
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:20,750
and those tiny little particles they can

1723
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:25,130
be influenced by some of the smallest

1724
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:29,930
most subtle forces and so it's you know

1725
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:31,330
you'd say you take something like twenty

1726
01:23:35,050 --> 01:23:32,480
microseconds

1727
01:23:37,450 --> 01:23:35,060
that doesn't sound like much but if it

1728
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:37,460
might be a gigantic shift and how the

1729
01:23:43,450 --> 01:23:39,890
brain is able to perceive things for

1730
01:23:46,420 --> 01:23:43,460
five seconds and so what we have to look

1731
01:23:48,850 --> 01:23:46,430
at here is not only the idea that the

1732
01:23:51,010 --> 01:23:48,860
environment might be physically affected

1733
01:23:53,650 --> 01:23:51,020
and changed by the presence of these

1734
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:53,660
time anomalies but also that it may

1735
01:23:59,380 --> 01:23:55,490
change the way we are able to perceive

1736
01:24:02,770 --> 01:23:59,390
reality itself and therefore you end up

1737
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:02,780
with people seeing ghosts that are out

1738
01:24:06,430 --> 01:24:04,970
of place and time along with the entire

1739
01:24:09,070 --> 01:24:06,440
setting because they're literally

1740
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:09,080
looking back through a window or a

1741
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:12,770
gateway into the past could could it be

1742
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:17,360
some type of natural recording yeah I

1743
01:24:24,220 --> 01:24:19,610
think that there's a very good chance

1744
01:24:26,350 --> 01:24:24,230
that the environment actually does

1745
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:26,360
naturally record everything that happens

1746
01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:30,650
and if we had the opportunity to to sort

1747
01:24:36,330 --> 01:24:34,180
of play that back then wow that would be

1748
01:24:39,790 --> 01:24:36,340
astounding because we would be able to

1749
01:24:42,430 --> 01:24:39,800
observe history as it actually occurred

1750
01:24:45,970 --> 01:24:42,440
at very least on this particular

1751
01:24:48,430 --> 01:24:45,980
timeline and so that's actually one of

1752
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:48,440
the more technical goals of ghost

1753
01:24:55,090 --> 01:24:50,480
research is to think that we might be

1754
01:24:57,820 --> 01:24:55,100
able to eventually find a way to to be

1755
01:24:59,530 --> 01:24:57,830
able to look back in time and so that's

1756
01:25:03,790 --> 01:24:59,540
where you get the idea of imprints and

1757
01:25:05,950 --> 01:25:03,800
residuals and that also makes you think

1758
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:05,960
about you know the concept that perhaps

1759
01:25:12,940 --> 01:25:09,530
all of the environment around us is

1760
01:25:16,530 --> 01:25:12,950
composed of little little blocks that

1761
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:16,540
are almost like RFID chips that can be

1762
01:25:23,260 --> 01:25:20,570
influenced by whatever energy happens to

1763
01:25:24,610 --> 01:25:23,270
manifest around them right and that at

1764
01:25:25,729 --> 01:25:24,620
certain times under certain

1765
01:25:28,729 --> 01:25:25,739
circumstances

1766
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:28,739
those RFID chips can send that signal

1767
01:25:35,900 --> 01:25:32,130
back and and some people are perhaps

1768
01:25:38,030 --> 01:25:35,910
better at observing that but but

1769
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:38,040
certainly this applies directly to

1770
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:40,530
ghostly phenomena and it applies very

1771
01:25:46,010 --> 01:25:43,170
easily to UFOs you know we have the

1772
01:25:49,130 --> 01:25:46,020
situation where a UFO appears over a car

1773
01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:49,140
and the car stops and then the UFO flies

1774
01:25:53,150 --> 01:25:51,420
away and the car is running again didn't

1775
01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:53,160
have to turn the ignition it's as if

1776
01:25:58,340 --> 01:25:56,430
time stopped or with cryptids people

1777
01:26:00,380 --> 01:25:58,350
saying a cryptid just sort of vanishes

1778
01:26:02,150 --> 01:26:00,390
in the middle of the path well if that

1779
01:26:04,670 --> 01:26:02,160
cryptid changed its position in space

1780
01:26:06,890 --> 01:26:04,680
and space time are related well now it's

1781
01:26:09,770 --> 01:26:06,900
manipulating time or somehow being

1782
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,780
influenced by time and psychic phenomena

1783
01:26:13,790 --> 01:26:11,520
people are often seeing what's happened

1784
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:13,800
in the past or the future with

1785
01:26:19,790 --> 01:26:16,320
precognition or post cognition and so so

1786
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:19,800
time is an integral component here that

1787
01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:22,110
seems to be distributed among all of

1788
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:23,670
these different types of things that we

1789
01:26:28,820 --> 01:26:26,520
consider the paranormal the mysterious

1790
01:26:31,420 --> 01:26:28,830
the unexplained you know we've got one

1791
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:31,430
minute before the break and this is what

1792
01:26:38,209 --> 01:26:35,520
I'm imagining here in this time warp

1793
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:38,219
zone in this circle where you write at

1794
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:42,960
Vista that if you saw it shift just

1795
01:26:47,959 --> 01:26:46,170
enough that maybe you would see a double

1796
01:26:51,260 --> 01:26:47,969
of yourself I mean just you know like I

1797
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:51,270
just a slightly behind you and your wife

1798
01:26:56,990 --> 01:26:53,850
and maybe you would hear something too

1799
01:26:59,600 --> 01:26:57,000
as well you know a doubling effect even

1800
01:27:02,000 --> 01:26:59,610
though it's 20 microseconds but what if

1801
01:27:05,410 --> 01:27:02,010
you hit something even broader than that

1802
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:05,420
that you would be seeing double

1803
01:27:10,940 --> 01:27:07,890
well I and that is certainly possible

1804
01:27:13,820 --> 01:27:10,950
and it has also been reported throughout

1805
01:27:16,490 --> 01:27:13,830
history as another type of ghostly

1806
01:27:18,860 --> 01:27:16,500
manifestation there was one incident in

1807
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:18,870
I believe the 1800s in which an entire

1808
01:27:23,959 --> 01:27:22,050
classroom of kids started squealing

1809
01:27:26,420 --> 01:27:23,969
because they were watching the teacher

1810
01:27:28,190 --> 01:27:26,430
write something on the chalkboard at the

1811
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:28,200
head of the class and suddenly the

1812
01:27:34,610 --> 01:27:32,400
teacher split into two ladies doing the

1813
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:34,620
identical thing side by side and then

1814
01:27:39,410 --> 01:27:38,400
merged back in into one person so you

1815
01:27:41,540 --> 01:27:39,420
have that

1816
01:27:44,060 --> 01:27:41,550
you also could call that similar to a

1817
01:27:45,950 --> 01:27:44,070
doppelganger type effect right but

1818
01:27:48,860 --> 01:27:45,960
definitely you you might be able to

1819
01:27:52,490 --> 01:27:48,870
observe yourself from another point in

1820
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:52,500
time and that's pretty freaky stuff I

1821
01:27:58,190 --> 01:27:54,530
want to go out with you we need to go

1822
01:28:01,070 --> 01:27:58,200
and and find one of these points I'm

1823
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:01,080
demand man I am so there Joshua our

1824
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guest tonight on this world UFO day is

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Joshua P Warren more with Joshua right

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after this short break stay with us

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you listen to us and we listen to you

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and so does the CIA jgr a radio.com you

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are listening to fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to me Church this is a

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televised the revolution is on radio

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Jimmy let's get back to Joshua Joshua on

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this world UFO day we've got so many

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different aspects of the UFO question

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that I think science needs to apply

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themselves to and which they want to

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back off I agree with you that today we

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understand how how infested this this

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galaxy is of ours and the universe with

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planets with stars that we didn't even

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understand this as little as 20 years

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ago now we have kepler we have Hubble we

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are able to observe what is really going

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on out there and the numbers are

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daunting dauntingly huge infinite

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numbers right there just crazy so that

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states that there's it's impossible that

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we are alone but then we have abductions

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and contact by the millions on this

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planet and that it's two different

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things we have contact and then we have

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abductions let's start with contact with

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people that are communicating with or

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have seen things that are definitely

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offworld what do you think is actually

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happening there are we are we being

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visited and have we had contact with

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literally millions and millions of

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people well every time I'm watching some

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kind of nature documentary and some

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scientists that have been sitting around

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in the bushes for months observing some

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creature with binoculars finally decides

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the

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pout and snatch it up and tag it and all

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that sort of thing

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I think well why do we humans have such

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an egotistical attitude that we think

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this might not also be happening to us

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and in fact if you want to get sinister

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about it you could say that there are no

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towels on planet earth that know that

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people eat gals and so we're not sure

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exactly what the agenda might always be

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it might be early just be a scientific

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one it might be a form of entertainment

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I certainly have met some strange people

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in my day that I thought might be

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wearing the human suit overtop of the

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reptilian body or whatever no doubt so

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you know I I definitely feel that um you

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know if these things are zipping around

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out there and coming into contact with

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in the the random person that's exactly

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how they would behave I mean that they

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would not behave any differently

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differently than we behave toward other

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animals and the animal kingdom that we

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know of and I also of course think about

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how many fish and the black depths of

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the ocean have no idea that such a thing

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as humans are up way up above and

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perhaps once in a while a fish that's

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sort of more daring than the rest goes a

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little higher up and catches a glimpse

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of some weird lights that look a heck of

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a lot like we would describe a UFO

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flying around overhead and so it's very

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easy to compare our relationship with

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the animals that we dominate to how

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these beings would interact with us and

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treat us and that means in some cases

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they would simply want to observe us and

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other cases they would certainly come

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and take us and do what they want with

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this for fun or experimentation there's

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nothing we could do about it and when

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you come back you know who are you gonna

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who are you gonna call right you can't

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call the police and report that so

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you're kind of on your own what you're

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absolutely right I'm a fish right I go

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up to the surface I see a boat with

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lights on it I freaked out I go back and

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tell my friends and family you're not

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gonna believe it I just saw there's a

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01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:19,860
ship up there show us you go back it's

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gone well it was right here

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Yeah right you know you're that's

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01:36:30,410 --> 01:36:28,620
exactly what's going on here with us

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it's the exact same thing and they have

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no idea about New York City I'm talking

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about fish they don't have any idea

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about the existence of anything else

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their world is water and to them that's

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all there is

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yeah and and that's also another

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01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:48,390
interesting point that yeah to them they

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probably don't even know that water

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exists because that's just what they

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live in right and and and and we for the

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longest time didn't even really

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understand that we were walking around

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in this gas called air and we certainly

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didn't understand that there was this

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thing called outer space which is more

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or less a vacuum up there so you know

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how many different layers are there of

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these media within which creatures can

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live and they spend 99% of their time in

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their own medium and so occasionally

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01:37:27,050 --> 01:37:23,160
when they pop back and forth which takes

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01:37:29,570 --> 01:37:27,060
effort these are not consistent

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01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:29,580
experiences I mean these are just you

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01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:31,170
know like you said catching the glimpse

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01:37:35,780 --> 01:37:33,090
of the boat but I might go back out

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01:37:37,670 --> 01:37:35,790
tomorrow night and myself as a human on

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01:37:39,170 --> 01:37:37,680
the beach and not see the the boat that

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01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:39,180
I saw there last night sitting off the

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01:37:41,660 --> 01:37:40,650
shore with the fishermen in it that's

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01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:41,670
exactly right

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01:37:48,500 --> 01:37:46,080
and then we have another issue that I

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find fascinating which is the Fermi

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01:37:54,020 --> 01:37:51,030
paradox if there is so much life out

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01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:54,030
there then how come we're not being

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01:37:59,540 --> 01:37:57,330
visited every single day well I have

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issues with that and I think the Fermi

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01:38:06,110 --> 01:38:03,570
paradox is kind of dissolving somewhat

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what do you think about that yeah that's

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01:38:12,980 --> 01:38:08,760
an interesting concept I can see why

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that from a certain standpoint that

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01:38:17,300 --> 01:38:14,640
makes sense because again it goes back

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01:38:20,330 --> 01:38:17,310
to Occam's razor where you know a

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01:38:20,959 --> 01:38:20,340
scientist would say essentially we have

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01:38:23,779 --> 01:38:20,969
the mass

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01:38:27,979 --> 01:38:23,789
to prove that we ought to be visited so

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01:38:29,870 --> 01:38:27,989
where is everybody but there are a

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01:38:33,649 --> 01:38:29,880
number of interesting explanations for

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01:38:36,620 --> 01:38:33,659
that number one is that they may be here

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01:38:37,790 --> 01:38:36,630
and we just don't realize it and of

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course that's what we're talking about

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01:38:41,569 --> 01:38:39,690
when it comes to this idea of people

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01:38:43,939 --> 01:38:41,579
having contact or some kind of an

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01:38:46,669 --> 01:38:43,949
abduction experience that we as a whole

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01:38:48,919 --> 01:38:46,679
just don't get to experience that and

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01:38:52,459 --> 01:38:48,929
which is a pretty good thing I would say

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01:38:58,549 --> 01:38:52,469
in in most cases on the other hand you

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01:39:02,299 --> 01:38:58,559
could also say that the the infinite

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01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:02,309
span of time in which it takes for a

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01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:05,690
that it takes for a civilization to rise

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01:39:14,779 --> 01:39:10,800
to the point to you know to go out and

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01:39:16,459 --> 01:39:14,789
explore and then decay and disappear the

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01:39:17,930 --> 01:39:16,469
almost infinite amount of time means

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01:39:21,049 --> 01:39:17,940
that it's very unlikely that two

2044
01:39:23,239 --> 01:39:21,059
civilizations are going to reach or

2045
01:39:25,310 --> 01:39:23,249
advance to that point at the same time

2046
01:39:27,790 --> 01:39:25,320
so that they can interact with each

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01:39:33,020 --> 01:39:27,800
other so that would indicate that maybe

2048
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:33,030
there are aliens out there sometimes but

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01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:34,650
not right now

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01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:37,050
you know and then of course you have the

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01:39:41,239 --> 01:39:39,449
idea that there are aliens that are

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01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:41,249
trying to communicate with us every

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01:39:47,689 --> 01:39:45,360
single day but they're not using radio

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01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:47,699
waves they're using some other

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01:39:53,180 --> 01:39:50,159
technology that they think should occur

2056
01:39:54,259 --> 01:39:53,190
to us that does not you know there there

2057
01:39:56,209 --> 01:39:54,269
are a number of different you know

2058
01:39:58,580 --> 01:39:56,219
possibilities there to look at that from

2059
01:40:01,700 --> 01:39:58,590
a scientific point of view but I tend to

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01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:01,710
think that it's most likely when you

2061
01:40:07,759 --> 01:40:05,760
consider the absolute just plethora the

2062
01:40:09,580 --> 01:40:07,769
spectrum of different types of living

2063
01:40:12,890 --> 01:40:09,590
creatures that we have on this planet

2064
01:40:16,609 --> 01:40:12,900
that there are probably things right

2065
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:16,619
under our noses that are our alien and

2066
01:40:20,330 --> 01:40:18,690
you know there's been speculation about

2067
01:40:23,810 --> 01:40:20,340
whether or not say mushrooms could be

2068
01:40:25,310 --> 01:40:23,820
aliens and stuff like that it's not

2069
01:40:27,859 --> 01:40:25,320
necessarily coming in the form of a

2070
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little green man but this is a

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01:40:34,370 --> 01:40:31,079
consideration that we again have such an

2072
01:40:37,220 --> 01:40:34,380
ego that we are not willing

2073
01:40:40,910 --> 01:40:37,230
to sit back and look at the possibility

2074
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:40,920
that we can't even see what's right in

2075
01:40:45,890 --> 01:40:43,440
front of us well there's there's two

2076
01:40:48,649 --> 01:40:45,900
things that come to mind with that and I

2077
01:40:53,330 --> 01:40:48,659
always look at ourselves first when I

2078
01:40:55,250 --> 01:40:53,340
seek answers we have been to Mars we

2079
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:55,260
been to Venus we've been to Jupiter

2080
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:57,330
we've been to saturn we've just buzzed

2081
01:41:04,910 --> 01:41:00,480
and photographed Ceres and Pluto and and

2082
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:04,920
we now have interstellar craft but to

2083
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:07,110
the best of my knowledge we don't have

2084
01:41:13,250 --> 01:41:10,170
humans on those craft right but we are

2085
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:13,260
certainly sending out robotic probes

2086
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:17,280
well that's what et would do here too as

2087
01:41:24,260 --> 01:41:22,050
well if we if we discovered an alien

2088
01:41:26,689 --> 01:41:24,270
intelligence and went to their planet

2089
01:41:30,260 --> 01:41:26,699
would we send a human down to the

2090
01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:30,270
surface first probably not we would send

2091
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:33,630
an Android version of Joshua P Warren

2092
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:36,449
that's what we would do we would

2093
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:39,510
necessarily send you and I think that

2094
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:42,239
that is exactly what is going on here it

2095
01:41:50,930 --> 01:41:47,610
only makes sense right well yeah and in

2096
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:50,940
fact if you go back to the the footage

2097
01:41:54,140 --> 01:41:51,810
from Puerto Rico

2098
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:54,150
that's exactly yeah it's exactly what I

2099
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:56,880
was going to bring up yes yeah you know

2100
01:42:02,720 --> 01:41:58,800
I was comparing that to all of these

2101
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:02,730
ancient sculptures called Samee that

2102
01:42:07,580 --> 01:42:05,730
look like you know little Hershey Kisses

2103
01:42:12,250 --> 01:42:07,590
with faces on them that were gods that

2104
01:42:16,370 --> 01:42:12,260
would fly around and you know I I called

2105
01:42:19,700 --> 01:42:16,380
the discovery of those along with the

2106
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:19,710
footage of Puerto Rico Oh UFOs which

2107
01:42:26,090 --> 01:42:23,489
stands for organic UFOs but since then

2108
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:26,100
I've thought that I may have been better

2109
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:29,570
off to call them AI UFOs because

2110
01:42:34,340 --> 01:42:32,130
unfortunately people just can't wrap

2111
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:34,350
their head around the idea of something

2112
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:36,690
being organic and not being like them

2113
01:42:44,540 --> 01:42:40,290
and so by organic what I'm saying is

2114
01:42:47,299 --> 01:42:44,550
that maybe these are probes that possess

2115
01:42:51,979 --> 01:42:47,309
some kind of

2116
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:51,989
and consciousness that these are again

2117
01:42:58,189 --> 01:42:55,010
what we would probably be best at cast

2118
01:43:03,859 --> 01:42:58,199
categorizing as artificial intelligence

2119
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:03,869
or AI right now because that these are

2120
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:06,449
craft that don't have a little guy

2121
01:43:11,919 --> 01:43:09,449
sitting inside the steering wheel but

2122
01:43:15,140 --> 01:43:11,929
they still have some kind of

2123
01:43:18,859 --> 01:43:15,150
independence and some kind of ability to

2124
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:18,869
observe and to guide systems and to

2125
01:43:25,850 --> 01:43:22,530
transfer information back to some other

2126
01:43:27,589 --> 01:43:25,860
location and so that may be more of what

2127
01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:27,599
we happen to see when we get a lot of

2128
01:43:33,709 --> 01:43:29,340
this stuff is what we think of as some

2129
01:43:35,660 --> 01:43:33,719
kind of probe that that has an

2130
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:35,670
artificial intelligence program within

2131
01:43:46,810 --> 01:43:44,209
let's back up for a site let's go back

2132
01:43:51,529 --> 01:43:46,820
to the time warp

2133
01:43:55,729 --> 01:43:51,539
could that explain deja vu you know

2134
01:43:59,479 --> 01:43:55,739
that's an interesting question why not

2135
01:44:04,129 --> 01:43:59,489
you know why not we've all experienced

2136
01:44:05,870 --> 01:44:04,139
that and in it just last for a moment

2137
01:44:08,989 --> 01:44:05,880
and then it's it's almost an

2138
01:44:11,959 --> 01:44:08,999
indiscernible moment because I remember

2139
01:44:13,899 --> 01:44:11,969
when I was in college I had a great

2140
01:44:17,540 --> 01:44:13,909
professor in the philosophy department

2141
01:44:21,500 --> 01:44:17,550
and at one point I had to write a paper

2142
01:44:25,609 --> 01:44:21,510
on time and I very quickly realized that

2143
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:25,619
the biggest problem with with time is

2144
01:44:30,739 --> 01:44:28,530
defining the difference between the past

2145
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:30,749
the present in the future because the

2146
01:44:35,779 --> 01:44:33,090
only way from a human standpoint to

2147
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:35,789
separate the past from the future is to

2148
01:44:41,209 --> 01:44:38,130
have some kind of a boundary between the

2149
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:41,219
two well how big is that boundary right

2150
01:44:44,930 --> 01:44:43,440
you know how long is that is that one

2151
01:44:46,459 --> 01:44:44,940
second well that doesn't make sense

2152
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:46,469
because even one second

2153
01:44:50,810 --> 01:44:49,110
has a beginning and an end and so you

2154
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:50,820
would have a past and a future within

2155
01:44:55,279 --> 01:44:52,650
your past and future so all you're doing

2156
01:44:57,709 --> 01:44:55,289
is kicking the problem down the can so

2157
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:57,719
essentially we don't know exactly how

2158
01:45:01,870 --> 01:44:58,639
long the

2159
01:45:04,060 --> 01:45:01,880
at last especially when it comes to the

2160
01:45:07,359 --> 01:45:04,070
human experience in human perception and

2161
01:45:09,370 --> 01:45:07,369
so you know again 20 microseconds may

2162
01:45:12,219 --> 01:45:09,380
sound like a very small amount of time

2163
01:45:14,169 --> 01:45:12,229
but that may be just enough time for

2164
01:45:17,979 --> 01:45:14,179
your brain to kick back you know a

2165
01:45:19,659 --> 01:45:17,989
second or two and say whoa why do I feel

2166
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:19,669
like I've just you know seen something

2167
01:45:27,069 --> 01:45:22,130
that I've seen before so it could very

2168
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:27,079
much be a graceful solution to deja vu

2169
01:45:31,959 --> 01:45:30,110
yeah I didn't want to uh I don't want to

2170
01:45:34,689 --> 01:45:31,969
ruin the flow here but that was such a

2171
01:45:36,669 --> 01:45:34,699
great question yeah I had to jump in

2172
01:45:41,020 --> 01:45:36,679
because we've all experienced Asia in

2173
01:45:43,449 --> 01:45:41,030
fact I rather enjoy deja vu I stopped

2174
01:45:47,379 --> 01:45:43,459
I'm just like okay I'm just gonna enjoy

2175
01:45:50,290 --> 01:45:47,389
myself here while this is going down and

2176
01:45:53,919 --> 01:45:50,300
there is something what would is really

2177
01:45:56,379 --> 01:45:53,929
interesting with deja vu for me Joshua

2178
01:45:58,899 --> 01:45:56,389
is everybody says that they've

2179
01:46:00,939 --> 01:45:58,909
experienced it in some form it doesn't

2180
01:46:04,629 --> 01:46:00,949
matter who you are they've all got their

2181
01:46:07,689 --> 01:46:04,639
own explanations or interpretations of

2182
01:46:11,469 --> 01:46:07,699
what is going on but the fact is deja vu

2183
01:46:13,899 --> 01:46:11,479
is real oh yeah yeah it's and you know

2184
01:46:16,839 --> 01:46:13,909
that's also one of those interesting

2185
01:46:19,629 --> 01:46:16,849
things about the human experience in

2186
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:19,639
general you know how do we define what's

2187
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:23,119
what's real because we're always trying

2188
01:46:29,649 --> 01:46:26,169
to rely up on some kind of a tool but

2189
01:46:31,719 --> 01:46:29,659
and science as we know it has progressed

2190
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:31,729
in large part because of the advancement

2191
01:46:37,979 --> 01:46:34,880
of tools but we have to remind ourselves

2192
01:46:40,750 --> 01:46:37,989
that every single tool out there was

2193
01:46:43,209 --> 01:46:40,760
envisioned by a person created by a

2194
01:46:45,699 --> 01:46:43,219
person built by a person calibrated by a

2195
01:46:48,129 --> 01:46:45,709
person operated by person interpreted by

2196
01:46:49,929 --> 01:46:48,139
a person you can't take the human

2197
01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:49,939
element out of it the human elements

2198
01:46:55,989 --> 01:46:52,159
really all you've got whether we like it

2199
01:46:59,739 --> 01:46:55,999
or not and so that's why when we have

2200
01:47:02,139 --> 01:46:59,749
these discussions about reality we're

2201
01:47:04,359 --> 01:47:02,149
better off to stick with what we know

2202
01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:04,369
and that's not always what you can prove

2203
01:47:09,850 --> 01:47:06,320
to somebody else just like I can't prove

2204
01:47:11,060 --> 01:47:09,860
to you what I dreamed last night

2205
01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:11,070
I remember it

2206
01:47:16,190 --> 01:47:13,830
it was real to me but I can't show you

2207
01:47:18,290 --> 01:47:16,200
that and scientifically demonstrate that

2208
01:47:20,420 --> 01:47:18,300
for you but it was a part of my reality

2209
01:47:22,430 --> 01:47:20,430
and deja vu is one of those things that

2210
01:47:25,670 --> 01:47:22,440
like you said I would presume everybody

2211
01:47:28,460 --> 01:47:25,680
can relate to and so that may be the

2212
01:47:31,370 --> 01:47:28,470
most basic way of experiencing these

2213
01:47:35,210 --> 01:47:31,380
time slips I used to say when I was a

2214
01:47:36,620 --> 01:47:35,220
kid I'm going back to age 12 13 14 when

2215
01:47:38,890 --> 01:47:36,630
I would speak to my friends about deja

2216
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:38,900
vu and especially when it happened I

2217
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:43,110
would say I feel like somebody has read

2218
01:47:49,340 --> 01:47:45,810
my book that's what I used to say as a

2219
01:47:51,650 --> 01:47:49,350
kid when that went down and as an adult

2220
01:47:54,140 --> 01:47:51,660
I look back at that that's an innocent

2221
01:47:56,570 --> 01:47:54,150
way of looking at it but it seems to me

2222
01:47:58,610 --> 01:47:56,580
like it's spot on the money and I can't

2223
01:48:01,370 --> 01:47:58,620
really explain it any other way and

2224
01:48:05,660 --> 01:48:01,380
that's the ways to relate to it as a

2225
01:48:07,790 --> 01:48:05,670
child somebody has read my book and now

2226
01:48:11,780 --> 01:48:07,800
I think about today about how profound

2227
01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:11,790
that thought was well and I I pay

2228
01:48:15,860 --> 01:48:13,920
attention when I'm somewhere and

2229
01:48:19,130 --> 01:48:15,870
somebody says out of the blue oh I just

2230
01:48:20,690 --> 01:48:19,140
had deja vu I mean in fact Lauren and I

2231
01:48:24,730 --> 01:48:20,700
who my wife and I were at a restaurant

2232
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:24,740
just recently for the first time and the

2233
01:48:29,300 --> 01:48:27,570
bartender came up to service and the

2234
01:48:32,150 --> 01:48:29,310
very first thing she said was whoa deja

2235
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:32,160
vu I thought that's interesting that's

2236
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,600
the first thing out of this lady's mouth

2237
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:35,280
and then throughout the rest of the day

2238
01:48:40,700 --> 01:48:38,250
all these very unusual sort of

2239
01:48:43,340 --> 01:48:40,710
synchronistic and serendipitous things

2240
01:48:45,710 --> 01:48:43,350
began to happen to us and I said okay

2241
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:45,720
this is one of those days where you get

2242
01:48:50,630 --> 01:48:48,570
to see the the connections form right in

2243
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:50,640
front of you I love it when it happened

2244
01:48:58,580 --> 01:48:54,090
I you know a couple of months ago Rita

2245
01:49:01,400 --> 01:48:58,590
and I my wife we went through a few days

2246
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:01,410
of strangeness and you know just weird

2247
01:49:05,630 --> 01:49:03,690
things just happening left and right and

2248
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:05,640
she walks out under the patio she goes

2249
01:49:12,110 --> 01:49:09,210
what'd you say I said I said deja vu I'm

2250
01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:12,120
going through and and and she just

2251
01:49:16,970 --> 01:49:14,580
stopped me and she's like staring out

2252
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:16,980
and she's like enjoying the moment and

2253
01:49:21,770 --> 01:49:19,410
we just it was like three days of that

2254
01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:21,780
you're absolutely right and you need to

2255
01:49:26,150 --> 01:49:24,270
really stop and take note don't play

2256
01:49:27,970 --> 01:49:26,160
found with it try to figure out exactly

2257
01:49:32,660 --> 01:49:27,980
what the universe is trying to tell you

2258
01:49:34,990 --> 01:49:32,670
and maybe that is again an example of

2259
01:49:38,170 --> 01:49:35,000
just having one of these quick

2260
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:38,180
encounters with these time warps but

2261
01:49:43,220 --> 01:49:41,010
sometimes they last longer than that and

2262
01:49:44,750 --> 01:49:43,230
when they last longer than that that's

2263
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:44,760
when you get to see the really good

2264
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:46,170
stuff you know that's when you get to

2265
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:48,690
look into the the past and see something

2266
01:49:55,310 --> 01:49:51,050
that happened long ago or maybe just see

2267
01:49:58,220 --> 01:49:55,320
yourself from a minute ago it may have

2268
01:50:00,170 --> 01:49:58,230
to do with the duration of this time

2269
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:00,180
slip that you happen to be encountering

2270
01:50:10,370 --> 01:50:04,290
now let's go mention dreams a minute ago

2271
01:50:13,310 --> 01:50:10,380
and dreams and abductions seem to go

2272
01:50:14,900 --> 01:50:13,320
hand in hand now and we look at some of

2273
01:50:17,810 --> 01:50:14,910
the famous cases of course you know

2274
01:50:20,210 --> 01:50:17,820
Travis Walton comes to mind and Travis

2275
01:50:21,740 --> 01:50:20,220
just went through some stuff over in

2276
01:50:24,230 --> 01:50:21,750
England he's back here in the States

2277
01:50:27,050 --> 01:50:24,240
Travis if you're listening were with

2278
01:50:29,810 --> 01:50:27,060
he-man and I'm gonna give you a call now

2279
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:29,820
back to you know like Travis well you

2280
01:50:35,780 --> 01:50:33,170
know well-documented case I witnesses

2281
01:50:39,710 --> 01:50:35,790
certainly polygraph tests and a lot of

2282
01:50:41,660 --> 01:50:39,720
things that went on to confirm his

2283
01:50:45,620 --> 01:50:41,670
abduction but then we have all of the

2284
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:45,630
other abduction cases again the numbers

2285
01:50:52,670 --> 01:50:48,810
are mind-boggling when we talk about

2286
01:50:54,260 --> 01:50:52,680
this is there that I think there's two

2287
01:50:56,180 --> 01:50:54,270
things going on and I'd like your answer

2288
01:51:00,080 --> 01:50:56,190
on each one one that these abductions

2289
01:51:03,770 --> 01:51:00,090
are real - they could be something more

2290
01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:03,780
sinister and maybe reenactments that are

2291
01:51:08,300 --> 01:51:06,000
going on to implant memories I'm talking

2292
01:51:12,020 --> 01:51:08,310
about military in my lab situations

2293
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:12,030
because the military seems to be present

2294
01:51:17,810 --> 01:51:16,320
at some of these abduction experiences

2295
01:51:19,940 --> 01:51:17,820
what do you think is going on when we're

2296
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:19,950
talking about abductions separate from

2297
01:51:27,260 --> 01:51:24,330
you know contact well for one thing when

2298
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:27,270
it comes to the real stuff the real

2299
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:31,290
encounters we have to first off look at

2300
01:51:36,740 --> 01:51:34,850
the physicality of the entire scenario

2301
01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:36,750
because

2302
01:51:41,420 --> 01:51:39,450
going back to us humans being so

2303
01:51:44,090 --> 01:51:41,430
egocentric we take for granted that just

2304
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:44,100
because that we have a physical body

2305
01:51:48,650 --> 01:51:46,170
that we can look at in the mirror that

2306
01:51:52,450 --> 01:51:48,660
that is actually the the bulk of us but

2307
01:51:54,590 --> 01:51:52,460
in fact the physicality is an illusion

2308
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:54,600
that's what the relationship between

2309
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:56,610
matter and energy tells us that

2310
01:52:02,030 --> 01:51:59,760
essentially two things are physical to

2311
01:52:04,370 --> 01:52:02,040
each other if they resonate within a

2312
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:04,380
similar vibration that's a very simple

2313
01:52:08,810 --> 01:52:06,210
way of putting it right and then if they

2314
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:08,820
resonate at a dissimilar vibration they

2315
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:10,530
are not physical to each other which is

2316
01:52:15,590 --> 01:52:13,170
why you know right now a radio wave will

2317
01:52:17,690 --> 01:52:15,600
pass through you like a ghost but if you

2318
01:52:19,490 --> 01:52:17,700
were made of radio waves then you would

2319
01:52:22,430 --> 01:52:19,500
encounter a radio wave like an

2320
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:22,440
impenetrable wall and then you have some

2321
01:52:28,490 --> 01:52:25,280
of those waves out there that are just

2322
01:52:32,690 --> 01:52:28,500
physical enough they will interact just

2323
01:52:34,670 --> 01:52:32,700
enough with with the physical world like

2324
01:52:37,550 --> 01:52:34,680
microwaves that they can cause enough

2325
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,560
friction to heat up your baked potato so

2326
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:38,880
you have all these different levels of

2327
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:43,170
physicality and it may be that many of

2328
01:52:49,370 --> 01:52:46,110
these encounters and abductions do take

2329
01:52:52,580 --> 01:52:49,380
place on what you might call an astral

2330
01:52:55,340 --> 01:52:52,590
or a non-physical plane and so that's

2331
01:52:57,170 --> 01:52:55,350
why people often have these dream

2332
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:57,180
experiences that they have trouble

2333
01:53:02,720 --> 01:52:59,760
distinguishing from some kind of an

2334
01:53:04,220 --> 01:53:02,730
abduction encounter they wake up the

2335
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:04,230
next day and they're like I had the most

2336
01:53:08,570 --> 01:53:06,930
realistic dream of my life and look I've

2337
01:53:12,410 --> 01:53:08,580
got these marks on me and my t-shirts

2338
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:12,420
torn and on and so it could be that most

2339
01:53:17,330 --> 01:53:14,370
people when they get abducted do not get

2340
01:53:19,490 --> 01:53:17,340
abducted on the physical plane this

2341
01:53:21,500 --> 01:53:19,500
would also explain why that you get

2342
01:53:24,430 --> 01:53:21,510
beamed through physical objects like

2343
01:53:29,410 --> 01:53:24,440
your ceiling and the roof of your house

2344
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:29,420
and if these beings whether they are

2345
01:53:35,930 --> 01:53:31,530
extraterrestrial or interdimensional or

2346
01:53:38,810 --> 01:53:35,940
both have the ability to understand the

2347
01:53:40,700 --> 01:53:38,820
way our world works well enough to

2348
01:53:42,290 --> 01:53:40,710
travel the way they can travel and

2349
01:53:45,260 --> 01:53:42,300
conduct themselves the way they conduct

2350
01:53:48,050 --> 01:53:45,270
themselves then we must consider they

2351
01:53:49,939 --> 01:53:48,060
have to understand the relationship

2352
01:53:51,799 --> 01:53:49,949
between matter

2353
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:51,809
energy and physicality and they might be

2354
01:53:57,379 --> 01:53:54,719
able to appear in different states and

2355
01:54:00,319 --> 01:53:57,389
so you might have you know the typical

2356
01:54:03,229 --> 01:54:00,329
sure enough the cow gets you know sucked

2357
01:54:04,879 --> 01:54:03,239
up into the into the UFO and you laid it

2358
01:54:07,549 --> 01:54:04,889
or something like that but it may be

2359
01:54:10,009 --> 01:54:07,559
much more common for people to have most

2360
01:54:12,259 --> 01:54:10,019
of their experience occur in an astral

2361
01:54:15,140 --> 01:54:12,269
non-physical way now when it comes to

2362
01:54:18,169 --> 01:54:15,150
the second type which of course gets

2363
01:54:23,180 --> 01:54:18,179
into government conspiracy and military

2364
01:54:24,859 --> 01:54:23,190
action I am immediately reminded of how

2365
01:54:29,359 --> 01:54:24,869
during World War two

2366
01:54:32,209 --> 01:54:29,369
the Allies went out and hired magicians

2367
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:32,219
from Las Vegas and special-effects

2368
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:35,010
technicians from Hollywood to come

2369
01:54:40,580 --> 01:54:37,679
together and create illusions which

2370
01:54:42,979 --> 01:54:40,590
played an enormous role in helping the

2371
01:54:45,319 --> 01:54:42,989
Allies win the war I mean there were

2372
01:54:46,759 --> 01:54:45,329
entire factories that were saved from

2373
01:54:49,549 --> 01:54:46,769
destruction these were munitions

2374
01:54:51,649 --> 01:54:49,559
factories because they were able to make

2375
01:54:53,870 --> 01:54:51,659
it disappear from the air and then

2376
01:54:56,750 --> 01:54:53,880
recreate it in another location so the

2377
01:54:58,430 --> 01:54:56,760
wrong location got bombed there are many

2378
01:55:01,009 --> 01:54:58,440
examples of this and this is well

2379
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:01,019
historically documented and so we know

2380
01:55:07,580 --> 01:55:04,320
that that was an effective component of

2381
01:55:10,759 --> 01:55:07,590
the psychological warfare long ago and

2382
01:55:13,850 --> 01:55:10,769
world war two so why would that work not

2383
01:55:17,810 --> 01:55:13,860
continue to this day but utilizing the

2384
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:17,820
more advanced technological options so

2385
01:55:25,569 --> 01:55:21,570
you've got now lasers and Holograms and

2386
01:55:28,910 --> 01:55:25,579
holographs and all of these abilities to

2387
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:28,920
to fool someone and into believing what

2388
01:55:32,989 --> 01:55:31,050
you want them to believe and I think

2389
01:55:35,029 --> 01:55:32,999
that can be especially effective if

2390
01:55:37,580 --> 01:55:35,039
you're dealing with an enemy like we

2391
01:55:41,299 --> 01:55:37,590
often have in the Middle East that says

2392
01:55:43,399 --> 01:55:41,309
look I'm doing this for Allah you know

2393
01:55:47,060 --> 01:55:43,409
I'm doing this for a supernatural being

2394
01:55:48,830 --> 01:55:47,070
and I will die for this so there's

2395
01:55:51,649 --> 01:55:48,840
nothing you can do to stop me

2396
01:55:54,890 --> 01:55:51,659
well what if they could create a

2397
01:55:56,839 --> 01:55:54,900
technology that makes Allah up here out

2398
01:55:59,689 --> 01:55:56,849
in the middle of the desert and tell

2399
01:56:01,549 --> 01:55:59,699
them no no not today you know I mean

2400
01:56:03,500 --> 01:56:01,559
that might be the kind of thing that

2401
01:56:04,250 --> 01:56:03,510
would actually work when nothing else

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01:56:05,810 --> 01:56:04,260
would

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01:56:07,129 --> 01:56:05,820
you're able to take advantage of what

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01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:07,139
people believe whether we're talking

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01:56:12,379 --> 01:56:09,210
about their religious beliefs or ghosts

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01:56:13,879 --> 01:56:12,389
or UFOs or cryptids and use that

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01:56:18,140 --> 01:56:13,889
technique in order to not only

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01:56:20,299 --> 01:56:18,150
manipulate them but also to to sort of

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01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:20,309
make somebody look a little bit more or

2410
01:56:25,939 --> 01:56:23,760
less like a crank if somebody reports

2411
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,949
something publicly well that's the best

2412
01:56:30,529 --> 01:56:28,320
way to do it right I mean yeah use a

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01:56:34,729 --> 01:56:30,539
little disinfo the rest of us are crazy

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01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:34,739
see we told you so yeah yeah I mean and

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01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:37,199
and it's the most effortless way and you

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01:56:41,479 --> 01:56:39,690
could you could also argue very

2417
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:41,489
effectively that that's the most humane

2418
01:56:46,459 --> 01:56:44,250
way to control the public and to conduct

2419
01:56:49,220 --> 01:56:46,469
warfare I can very easily see somebody

2420
01:56:51,379 --> 01:56:49,230
at the Pentagon saying look we could

2421
01:56:54,740 --> 01:56:51,389
continue wasting all of these lives and

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01:56:57,020 --> 01:56:54,750
all of this armament and etc or we could

2423
01:57:00,020 --> 01:56:57,030
just create this technology that gives

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:00,030
this illusion and makes them think in a

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01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:01,530
different way and we don't have to

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01:57:08,750 --> 01:57:04,110
confront them head-on with brute force

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01:57:11,479 --> 01:57:08,760
an amazing way to look at it and when we

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01:57:13,729 --> 01:57:11,489
come back I want to talk about recent

2429
01:57:15,819 --> 01:57:13,739
sightings we're gonna do that but also I

2430
01:57:19,100 --> 01:57:15,829
want to go back to this interdimensional

2431
01:57:20,930 --> 01:57:19,110
parallel world aspect to abductions I

2432
01:57:23,379 --> 01:57:20,940
find that fascinating I want more info

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our guest tonight is Joshua P Warren

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happy UFO day I'll be right back

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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welcome back fade to black our guest

2521
02:01:50,660 --> 02:01:46,289
tonight Joshua P Warren on this world

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02:01:53,180 --> 02:01:50,670
UFO day man he's had a busy week this

2523
02:01:55,939 --> 02:01:53,190
week can i how to thank him one more

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time for finding the time to come in and

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hang out with us on this very important

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day and this segment of fade to black is

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what we use here too as well and I want

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to just go to the banners at Jimmy

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Church radio.com and get yourself a pair

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of those generation threes Joshua the

2533
02:02:26,589 --> 02:02:23,699
interdimensional parallel world time

2534
02:02:29,509 --> 02:02:26,599
slip aspect of all of this is

2535
02:02:32,060 --> 02:02:29,519
fascinating and it takes me back to a

2536
02:02:36,529 --> 02:02:32,070
very famous case in book it's called the

2537
02:02:38,299 --> 02:02:36,539
Mojave incident and that book and that

2538
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:38,309
couple that went through that not only

2539
02:02:41,629 --> 02:02:40,050
was here with me I'm fade to black a

2540
02:02:45,649 --> 02:02:41,639
couple of times and over I

2541
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:45,659
coast-to-coast when you hear the two of

2542
02:02:51,049 --> 02:02:48,960
them recount their story together I

2543
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:51,059
don't think that there's any doubt that

2544
02:02:55,609 --> 02:02:53,760
they went through this and the incident

2545
02:02:58,359 --> 02:02:55,619
happened but we're talking about a large

2546
02:03:02,060 --> 02:02:58,369
craft we're talking about abduction

2547
02:03:04,549 --> 02:03:02,070
thousands of beings that came down into

2548
02:03:08,089 --> 02:03:04,559
the Mojave Desert that night with red

2549
02:03:10,700 --> 02:03:08,099
eyes that they had seen but yet it

2550
02:03:13,069 --> 02:03:10,710
wasn't witnessed by anybody at the

2551
02:03:16,339 --> 02:03:13,079
campground you know that was just a few

2552
02:03:21,649 --> 02:03:16,349
miles up the road but the incident

2553
02:03:24,620 --> 02:03:21,659
happened it could this you know parallel

2554
02:03:28,549 --> 02:03:24,630
world aspect come into play here where

2555
02:03:33,109 --> 02:03:28,559
they were taken to everything happened

2556
02:03:35,899 --> 02:03:33,119
but just in another dimension well yeah

2557
02:03:38,750 --> 02:03:35,909
especially if you consider that right

2558
02:03:40,359 --> 02:03:38,760
now the best mathematicians in the world

2559
02:03:46,879 --> 02:03:40,369
are telling us that there are at least

2560
02:03:49,450 --> 02:03:46,889
10 or 11 other dimensions and we really

2561
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:49,460
can't comprehend exactly what that means

2562
02:03:53,869 --> 02:03:52,170
it's hard enough for us again to figure

2563
02:03:56,359 --> 02:03:53,879
out what time is

2564
02:03:59,500 --> 02:03:56,369
and time is just something that fuses

2565
02:04:02,989 --> 02:03:59,510
the first three dimensions together and

2566
02:04:06,500 --> 02:04:02,999
tries to explain how that they advance

2567
02:04:09,349 --> 02:04:06,510
or progress but I think the best way to

2568
02:04:12,109 --> 02:04:09,359
wrap our brains around interdimensional

2569
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:12,119
activity is to interestingly enough go

2570
02:04:18,859 --> 02:04:16,050
back to the Victorian English author

2571
02:04:21,349 --> 02:04:18,869
named Edwin Abbott who wrote a very

2572
02:04:27,349 --> 02:04:21,359
interesting book called flatland and

2573
02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:27,359
which he imagined the world that is that

2574
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:29,609
consists solely of two dimensional

2575
02:04:36,109 --> 02:04:32,729
beings where every single thing is flat

2576
02:04:37,759 --> 02:04:36,119
so in other words their whole world you

2577
02:04:41,299 --> 02:04:37,769
could envision as like a big flat piece

2578
02:04:43,009 --> 02:04:41,309
of cardboard ignoring the fact that even

2579
02:04:46,399 --> 02:04:43,019
a piece of cardboard has a little height

2580
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:46,409
and whatnot but anyway flat and then

2581
02:04:51,859 --> 02:04:49,530
they themselves are like circles that

2582
02:04:54,409 --> 02:04:51,869
are just sliding around inside flatland

2583
02:04:56,899 --> 02:04:54,419
completely oblivious to anything like

2584
02:05:00,409 --> 02:04:56,909
height or up or down you know as in a

2585
02:05:03,709 --> 02:05:00,419
third dimension so if we were to be

2586
02:05:06,580 --> 02:05:03,719
three dimensional beings looking down on

2587
02:05:10,189 --> 02:05:06,590
flatland from this direction called up

2588
02:05:12,049 --> 02:05:10,199
that they are oblivious to and we were

2589
02:05:14,509 --> 02:05:12,059
to say hey little flatland or how you

2590
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:14,519
doing that person would just hear a

2591
02:05:19,099 --> 02:05:16,530
disembodied voice that would suddenly

2592
02:05:22,159 --> 02:05:19,109
come from nowhere and it would be pretty

2593
02:05:24,319 --> 02:05:22,169
freaky now you also from that point of

2594
02:05:28,119 --> 02:05:24,329
view would be able to see inside their

2595
02:05:30,770 --> 02:05:28,129
houses with sort of an x-ray vision and

2596
02:05:32,479 --> 02:05:30,780
therefore you'd be able to describe for

2597
02:05:36,129 --> 02:05:32,489
them information about their

2598
02:05:40,009 --> 02:05:36,139
surroundings that they could not explain

2599
02:05:42,379 --> 02:05:40,019
but if you got really engaged and you

2600
02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:42,389
decided to go down into flatland and

2601
02:05:47,239 --> 02:05:45,119
visit their world from a Flatlanders

2602
02:05:50,449 --> 02:05:47,249
point of view all that individual would

2603
02:05:55,489 --> 02:05:50,459
see is a series of objects appearing as

2604
02:05:58,339 --> 02:05:55,499
slices because this object could not be

2605
02:06:00,319 --> 02:05:58,349
seen it's in its entirety with all three

2606
02:06:02,810 --> 02:06:00,329
dimensions and so you have this sort of

2607
02:06:03,679 --> 02:06:02,820
a series or set of objects that appears

2608
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:03,689
in midair

2609
02:06:07,210 --> 02:06:06,090
and lastly if you were to reach down

2610
02:06:09,190 --> 02:06:07,220
into flatland

2611
02:06:12,130 --> 02:06:09,200
a flatlander and toss him or her in the

2612
02:06:15,610 --> 02:06:12,140
air and the person came floating down

2613
02:06:16,990 --> 02:06:15,620
back at the flatland freaked out they

2614
02:06:18,490 --> 02:06:17,000
would have no way of explaining this

2615
02:06:20,410 --> 02:06:18,500
experience to their friends other than

2616
02:06:22,990 --> 02:06:20,420
to say this was some kind of a mystical

2617
02:06:25,450 --> 02:06:23,000
encounter and so what I mean by by this

2618
02:06:28,030 --> 02:06:25,460
example is that all these things I

2619
02:06:31,420 --> 02:06:28,040
described that a two dimensional being

2620
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:31,430
would experience if if he or she came

2621
02:06:35,740 --> 02:06:32,930
into contact with a three dimensional

2622
02:06:38,050 --> 02:06:35,750
being sounds eerily like the things that

2623
02:06:40,150 --> 02:06:38,060
we described when we come into contact

2624
02:06:43,090 --> 02:06:40,160
with some of these other beings that may

2625
02:06:48,810 --> 02:06:43,100
have an interdimensional capacity and so

2626
02:06:51,700 --> 02:06:48,820
it could be that if these beings are

2627
02:06:53,290 --> 02:06:51,710
entering our dimension from a higher

2628
02:06:54,670 --> 02:06:53,300
dimension a fifth dimension sixth

2629
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:54,680
dimension seventh dimension eighth to

2630
02:07:00,400 --> 02:06:57,890
mention etc then certain individuals

2631
02:07:03,310 --> 02:07:00,410
might have a very limited point of view

2632
02:07:05,410 --> 02:07:03,320
in which to observe this and and then

2633
02:07:08,050 --> 02:07:05,420
appreciate it but the rest of us would

2634
02:07:09,550 --> 02:07:08,060
not and so there are all those variables

2635
02:07:11,380 --> 02:07:09,560
that we have to consider when we wrap

2636
02:07:16,330 --> 02:07:11,390
our minds around interdimensional

2637
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:16,340
encounters well and ET 10000 years more

2638
02:07:22,150 --> 02:07:19,370
advanced a million more years a billion

2639
02:07:26,010 --> 02:07:22,160
would certainly understand dimensions

2640
02:07:29,020 --> 02:07:26,020
and and how to dance in and out of them

2641
02:07:31,770 --> 02:07:29,030
yeah but one would imagine that you know

2642
02:07:35,020 --> 02:07:31,780
if you're going to make the trip here

2643
02:07:38,830 --> 02:07:35,030
you know you you you must understand a

2644
02:07:41,620 --> 02:07:38,840
lot about that and so that's why

2645
02:07:44,260 --> 02:07:41,630
sometimes you almost want to just throw

2646
02:07:47,020 --> 02:07:44,270
up your hands and say look I'm never

2647
02:07:51,070 --> 02:07:47,030
gonna understand all this because it's

2648
02:07:53,170 --> 02:07:51,080
so advanced that it's impossible for me

2649
02:07:54,910 --> 02:07:53,180
to understand it and and that may also

2650
02:07:57,100 --> 02:07:54,920
be one of the reasons that you know

2651
02:07:59,800 --> 02:07:57,110
disclosure is not more of a priority

2652
02:08:01,630 --> 02:07:59,810
because and I bet you a lot of these

2653
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:01,640
folks who were with the military who

2654
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:03,440
have these first-hand encounters they

2655
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:04,850
say look we don't know what's going on

2656
02:08:10,210 --> 02:08:08,090
that much more than anybody else and so

2657
02:08:12,460 --> 02:08:10,220
this you know it produces a conundrum

2658
02:08:14,290 --> 02:08:12,470
where you ask yourself like how how

2659
02:08:16,270 --> 02:08:14,300
efficient is it for us to invest

2660
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:16,280
resources in this thing that we're

2661
02:08:19,250 --> 02:08:17,570
probably never really going to be able

2662
02:08:21,860 --> 02:08:19,260
to understand anyway yeah

2663
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:21,870
we have to look at it in those terms in

2664
02:08:28,130 --> 02:08:25,730
that et getting here they don't know

2665
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:28,140
whether it's a thousand years ago two

2666
02:08:31,820 --> 02:08:29,970
thousand years ago or today and they're

2667
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:31,830
visiting all the time I understand that

2668
02:08:37,850 --> 02:08:33,690
but they don't know what level of

2669
02:08:40,460 --> 02:08:37,860
intelligence we have necessarily or what

2670
02:08:43,570 --> 02:08:40,470
we would understand necessarily to what

2671
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:43,580
is very simple for them like with us

2672
02:08:51,170 --> 02:08:47,090
language and riding a bike and laughing

2673
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:51,180
comedy are very simple things for us but

2674
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:54,450
we can't convey that to our closest

2675
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:56,490
relatives like a chimpanzee they don't

2676
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,090
get it

2677
02:09:03,200 --> 02:08:59,520
right and it would be the same thing

2678
02:09:05,140 --> 02:09:03,210
with et the very basics for them are way

2679
02:09:08,390 --> 02:09:05,150
beyond our understanding

2680
02:09:10,940 --> 02:09:08,400
yes and going back to that example with

2681
02:09:12,350 --> 02:09:10,950
the animal kingdom I wrote a book one

2682
02:09:13,940 --> 02:09:12,360
time called pet ghosts

2683
02:09:16,340 --> 02:09:13,950
animal encounters from beyond the grave

2684
02:09:20,990 --> 02:09:16,350
which got into all kinds of animals

2685
02:09:22,460 --> 02:09:21,000
other than just pets but the the reason

2686
02:09:26,380 --> 02:09:22,470
I bring this up is that you know I was

2687
02:09:30,130 --> 02:09:26,390
talking about how most human beings

2688
02:09:34,730 --> 02:09:30,140
would say well I am smarter than a shark

2689
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:34,740
but if I throw you in the water with a

2690
02:09:43,220 --> 02:09:37,730
shark how much does that really matter

2691
02:09:45,110 --> 02:09:43,230
much so the shark you know who you can

2692
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:45,120
judge who's smarter here but the shark I

2693
02:09:49,220 --> 02:09:46,650
believe is gonna probably have the

2694
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:49,230
better the better hand up in that and so

2695
02:09:55,490 --> 02:09:52,250
you know again this goes back to us

2696
02:09:57,860 --> 02:09:55,500
thinking of ourselves so highly without

2697
02:10:00,560 --> 02:09:57,870
realizing that maybe all of the animals

2698
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:00,570
around us are far more intelligent than

2699
02:10:06,770 --> 02:10:03,840
we realize but just they are intelligent

2700
02:10:08,150 --> 02:10:06,780
within a particular range and we're

2701
02:10:11,150 --> 02:10:08,160
intelligent within a particular range

2702
02:10:15,170 --> 02:10:11,160
and we get we get very arrogant about

2703
02:10:16,970 --> 02:10:15,180
that I want to I'd spend this last few

2704
02:10:21,500 --> 02:10:16,980
minutes with you talking about night

2705
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:21,510
vision one of the one of the

2706
02:10:27,530 --> 02:10:24,810
life-changing moments for me one of one

2707
02:10:30,020 --> 02:10:27,540
of my epiphanies was that first night

2708
02:10:31,220 --> 02:10:30,030
out there doing a sky watch with night

2709
02:10:36,410 --> 02:10:31,230
vision

2710
02:10:39,410 --> 02:10:36,420
and it caused me after that moment to I

2711
02:10:42,020 --> 02:10:39,420
always look to the stars but now I look

2712
02:10:43,970 --> 02:10:42,030
to the stars differently knowing that

2713
02:10:45,860 --> 02:10:43,980
there's crap flying around up there that

2714
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:45,870
I just can't see right without the night

2715
02:10:52,910 --> 02:10:50,090
vision every moment of every night of

2716
02:10:56,479 --> 02:10:52,920
everything there was stuff going on up

2717
02:10:59,150 --> 02:10:56,489
there that that I can't see with my eyes

2718
02:11:01,550 --> 02:10:59,160
frightening on one side but on the other

2719
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:01,560
side it answers a lot of questions for

2720
02:11:07,340 --> 02:11:05,730
me what what do you think is the what is

2721
02:11:09,260 --> 02:11:07,350
it that we are seeing you touched upon

2722
02:11:10,940 --> 02:11:09,270
it earlier some of it could be outs in

2723
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:10,950
military and I agree with that some of

2724
02:11:14,020 --> 02:11:12,690
it could be satellites there's other

2725
02:11:17,950 --> 02:11:14,030
stuff that you see with night vision

2726
02:11:21,670 --> 02:11:17,960
that is absolutely not of this earth

2727
02:11:25,729 --> 02:11:21,680
well my most profound night vision

2728
02:11:29,030 --> 02:11:25,739
experience happened probably about 10

2729
02:11:31,820 --> 02:11:29,040
years ago in the desert outside of

2730
02:11:35,690 --> 02:11:31,830
Laughlin Nevada is where it's much

2731
02:11:38,750 --> 02:11:35,700
darker at night and I'll never forget

2732
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:38,760
seeing that sky for the first time

2733
02:11:42,890 --> 02:11:40,770
through third generation night vision I

2734
02:11:45,770 --> 02:11:42,900
mean it was just like for every star

2735
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:45,780
that was visible to my naked eyes there

2736
02:11:48,590 --> 02:11:47,370
were about twenty or thirty you know

2737
02:11:50,870 --> 02:11:48,600
that were visible through the night

2738
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:50,880
vision and so for one thing the heavens

2739
02:11:55,070 --> 02:11:52,110
are just bejeweled and there's an

2740
02:11:58,700 --> 02:11:55,080
incredible amount of clarity there and I

2741
02:12:00,229 --> 02:11:58,710
was out there with three friends so

2742
02:12:03,140 --> 02:12:00,239
there was a total of four of us and

2743
02:12:06,229 --> 02:12:03,150
three of us had the third gen

2744
02:12:09,620 --> 02:12:06,239
night-vision goggles and this was about

2745
02:12:14,180 --> 02:12:09,630
9:30 at night at one point I looked over

2746
02:12:18,620 --> 02:12:14,190
toward the east and when I saw in the

2747
02:12:20,479 --> 02:12:18,630
sky looked so bizarre that at first I

2748
02:12:22,940 --> 02:12:20,489
thought that my goggles were

2749
02:12:25,190 --> 02:12:22,950
malfunctioning that there was some kind

2750
02:12:29,020 --> 02:12:25,200
of a digital artifact that had appeared

2751
02:12:33,620 --> 02:12:29,030
in my goggles because what I saw was a

2752
02:12:38,510 --> 02:12:33,630
gigantic v-shape not a triangle that a

2753
02:12:42,350 --> 02:12:38,520
huge v-shape it looked like the hand of

2754
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:42,360
God had just taken a big highlighter and

2755
02:12:46,330 --> 02:12:44,239
drawn a huge

2756
02:12:48,479 --> 02:12:46,340
viii that extended from one side of the

2757
02:12:54,220 --> 02:12:48,489
horizon to the other with a smaller

2758
02:12:56,979 --> 02:12:54,230
v-shape over top of it and it was well

2759
02:12:59,319 --> 02:12:56,989
gliding very very silently from right to

2760
02:13:00,580 --> 02:12:59,329
left and I said to the other guys I said

2761
02:13:03,189 --> 02:13:00,590
I think there's something wrong with my

2762
02:13:06,129 --> 02:13:03,199
goggles I'm seeing this weird v-shape

2763
02:13:07,689 --> 02:13:06,139
and then I hear this chorus of holy when

2764
02:13:11,140 --> 02:13:07,699
everybody turns their goggles and I

2765
02:13:12,939 --> 02:13:11,150
realize no we're all seeing this this

2766
02:13:14,859 --> 02:13:12,949
was the largest thing that I have ever

2767
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:14,869
seen in the sky and you know the sky is

2768
02:13:20,830 --> 02:13:17,210
pretty darn big out here in the desert

2769
02:13:22,839 --> 02:13:20,840
in Nevada right and this thing it

2770
02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:22,849
started again at pretty much one side of

2771
02:13:28,479 --> 02:13:25,610
the horizon to my right and it took it

2772
02:13:31,629 --> 02:13:28,489
probably a few minutes to go right

2773
02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:31,639
across in front of it over our heads to

2774
02:13:37,060 --> 02:13:34,130
the left and disappear without so much

2775
02:13:41,319 --> 02:13:37,070
as a sound not a flashing light nothing

2776
02:13:45,370 --> 02:13:41,329
like that I'll never forget feeling so

2777
02:13:47,169 --> 02:13:45,380
small in my life like some kind of

2778
02:13:49,930 --> 02:13:47,179
caveman you know staring up at this

2779
02:13:51,609 --> 02:13:49,940
thing as it went over unfortunately we

2780
02:13:53,890 --> 02:13:51,619
did not have any kind of recording

2781
02:13:55,450 --> 02:13:53,900
devices hooked up to the goggles and

2782
02:13:57,489 --> 02:13:55,460
we've been kicking ourselves for that

2783
02:13:58,600 --> 02:13:57,499
ever since because I've never seen that

2784
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:58,610
same thing again

2785
02:14:03,609 --> 02:14:00,320
going back to what we were talking about

2786
02:14:06,189 --> 02:14:03,619
earlier but we were so pumped by this

2787
02:14:07,779 --> 02:14:06,199
that we stayed up the rest of the night

2788
02:14:09,220 --> 02:14:07,789
we couldn't sleep just talking about

2789
02:14:11,200 --> 02:14:09,230
what we'd seen over and over and over

2790
02:14:12,759 --> 02:14:11,210
again and the next day you know I got on

2791
02:14:14,379 --> 02:14:12,769
the horn I started calling everybody I

2792
02:14:16,450 --> 02:14:14,389
could think of asking for possible

2793
02:14:19,509 --> 02:14:16,460
explanations could this have been some

2794
02:14:22,299 --> 02:14:19,519
kind of you know my migrating fowl

2795
02:14:24,850 --> 02:14:22,309
formation flying foul or could this be

2796
02:14:27,819 --> 02:14:24,860
some you know some kind of military

2797
02:14:29,799 --> 02:14:27,829
operation and nobody I talked to had any

2798
02:14:31,239 --> 02:14:29,809
idea what it was they they said that

2799
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:31,249
there's it was the wrong time of year

2800
02:14:34,810 --> 02:14:33,530
for any type of formation of birds or

2801
02:14:36,939 --> 02:14:34,820
anything and it did look like that

2802
02:14:42,209 --> 02:14:36,949
anyhow because I've since seen them a

2803
02:14:45,759 --> 02:14:42,219
night vision so I feel that what I saw

2804
02:14:49,359 --> 02:14:45,769
could have been something man-made but

2805
02:14:51,879 --> 02:14:49,369
if so it was the biggest most incredible

2806
02:14:54,339 --> 02:14:51,889
impressive man-made object I've ever

2807
02:14:56,979 --> 02:14:54,349
seen do you have any idea on the size of

2808
02:14:57,689 --> 02:14:56,989
it and you can answer that quickly but

2809
02:15:02,729 --> 02:14:57,699
the

2810
02:15:04,949 --> 02:15:02,739
vision as it went over well I couldn't

2811
02:15:07,500 --> 02:15:04,959
see anything right I get ice right yeah

2812
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:07,510
so it was only visible within the

2813
02:15:12,569 --> 02:15:10,090
infrared realm the night-vision goggles

2814
02:15:16,009 --> 02:15:12,579
allow you to see Wow so that also tells

2815
02:15:19,290 --> 02:15:16,019
you something about it and we know that

2816
02:15:20,819 --> 02:15:19,300
9 times out of 10 aircraft especially

2817
02:15:23,069 --> 02:15:20,829
something of that size has got to have

2818
02:15:25,949 --> 02:15:23,079
some kind of beacon or flashing you know

2819
02:15:28,259 --> 02:15:25,959
warning system on it to to alert other

2820
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:28,269
aircraft so that was a life-changing

2821
02:15:34,739 --> 02:15:32,050
moment for me every time I go out I look

2822
02:15:37,259 --> 02:15:34,749
for that same thing I know you do how

2823
02:15:38,399 --> 02:15:37,269
big was it well you know that's the

2824
02:15:41,069 --> 02:15:38,409
problem when you're looking at things

2825
02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:41,079
like that what I can tell you is from my

2826
02:15:48,060 --> 02:15:44,249
point of view it took up the entire sky

2827
02:15:51,029 --> 02:15:48,070
but I have no honest way of gauging that

2828
02:15:52,109 --> 02:15:51,039
because you know at night when you're

2829
02:15:55,620 --> 02:15:52,119
looking at something through some

2830
02:15:58,290 --> 02:15:55,630
goggles there's nothing else in the sky

2831
02:16:00,149 --> 02:15:58,300
that you can really compare it to so I

2832
02:16:03,060 --> 02:16:00,159
don't know to be honest with you but it

2833
02:16:07,859 --> 02:16:03,070
was it was certainly a behemoth and it

2834
02:16:11,399 --> 02:16:07,869
certainly parallels what was seen over

2835
02:16:13,799 --> 02:16:11,409
Phoenix it's very similar to that you

2836
02:16:17,850 --> 02:16:13,809
know the the Phoenix lights appeared

2837
02:16:20,729 --> 02:16:17,860
instead to be sort of a series of of

2838
02:16:22,910 --> 02:16:20,739
lights that were in a v-shaped or

2839
02:16:28,020 --> 02:16:22,920
triangular kind of formation right and

2840
02:16:30,750 --> 02:16:28,030
this didn't seem to be a series of dots

2841
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:30,760
that were that I was mentally connecting

2842
02:16:36,179 --> 02:16:33,370
this actually seemed to be a linear

2843
02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:36,189
v-shape man that is crazy what a great

2844
02:16:43,169 --> 02:16:40,000
sighting right oh yeah yeah it was um it

2845
02:16:44,820 --> 02:16:43,179
was immediately for me a hook for it for

2846
02:16:47,219 --> 02:16:44,830
night vision because I think that was

2847
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:47,229
the first time I'd really gone out in

2848
02:16:51,479 --> 02:16:49,120
the field and looked at the sky at night

2849
02:16:53,549 --> 02:16:51,489
through night vision and so since then

2850
02:16:56,700 --> 02:16:53,559
I've done that many times and it's a

2851
02:17:00,059 --> 02:16:56,710
staple of my my my kit when I go out at

2852
02:17:01,889 --> 02:17:00,069
night and now I I've got my camera

2853
02:17:04,049 --> 02:17:01,899
hooked up so next time hopefully I'll be

2854
02:17:07,390 --> 02:17:04,059
I'll be better prepared for it now I

2855
02:17:10,810 --> 02:17:07,400
will tell you

2856
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:10,820
I'll tell you off of the air but we have

2857
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:13,450
a really cool development coming with

2858
02:17:19,871 --> 02:17:17,330
the Jimmy Church version of night vision

2859
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:19,881
and it'll be released in about a month

2860
02:17:25,241 --> 02:17:23,690
that will you're gonna love it

2861
02:17:26,920 --> 02:17:25,251
I'll tell you more about that later I

2862
02:17:30,250 --> 02:17:26,930
can't do it now because I don't want to

2863
02:17:33,010 --> 02:17:30,260
tip anybody else out and you know I

2864
02:17:34,390 --> 02:17:33,020
don't any other manufacturers it was so

2865
02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:34,400
cool

2866
02:17:42,220 --> 02:17:35,690
and I'll tell you about that later now

2867
02:17:45,310 --> 02:17:42,230
my thing is this I the when I go out

2868
02:17:48,581 --> 02:17:45,320
with and do sky watches and I'm using

2869
02:17:50,170 --> 02:17:48,591
night vision that there are those out

2870
02:17:52,991 --> 02:17:50,180
there that are listening to you and I

2871
02:17:57,730 --> 02:17:53,001
right now Joshua that have never done it

2872
02:18:00,371 --> 02:17:57,740
they don't quite have a grasp or concept

2873
02:18:02,350 --> 02:18:00,381
of what we are talking about and I'm

2874
02:18:05,531 --> 02:18:02,360
sure that most of thinking that it's

2875
02:18:08,650 --> 02:18:05,541
easily explainable well you see stuff in

2876
02:18:11,710 --> 02:18:08,660
night vision that is moving out there

2877
02:18:14,920 --> 02:18:11,720
some of it low some of it high but it's

2878
02:18:17,380 --> 02:18:14,930
way beyond what we normally see with our

2879
02:18:20,260 --> 02:18:17,390
own eyes during the day aircraft

2880
02:18:22,510 --> 02:18:20,270
helicopters planes they all fly in a

2881
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:22,520
certain fashion satellites

2882
02:18:29,531 --> 02:18:25,010
and then you see these things in night

2883
02:18:35,081 --> 02:18:29,541
vision that don't make any sense either

2884
02:18:37,510 --> 02:18:35,091
Joshua its et or the government has

2885
02:18:40,420 --> 02:18:37,520
crazy technology that they are not

2886
02:18:43,060 --> 02:18:40,430
telling us about both situations to me

2887
02:18:47,230 --> 02:18:43,070
are equally frightening but there isn't

2888
02:18:49,480 --> 02:18:47,240
a gray area is there no no when you see

2889
02:18:51,400 --> 02:18:49,490
something like that yeah you you know

2890
02:18:54,581 --> 02:18:51,410
that it's one of the other and possibly

2891
02:18:56,291 --> 02:18:54,591
a combination of both and so if

2892
02:19:00,520 --> 02:18:56,301
something like that

2893
02:19:03,871 --> 02:19:00,530
what I saw was flying out in the middle

2894
02:19:07,900 --> 02:19:03,881
of nowhere over the navitat desert then

2895
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:07,910
and it was fairly close to to earth at

2896
02:19:13,291 --> 02:19:09,650
least I can tell you that because I was

2897
02:19:16,970 --> 02:19:13,301
able to look up and and see it very well

2898
02:19:18,860 --> 02:19:16,980
it does go back to this idea that maybe

2899
02:19:21,140 --> 02:19:18,870
that's the kind of stuff that the space

2900
02:19:22,701 --> 02:19:21,150
force is dealing with right right you

2901
02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:22,711
know that that things like that are

2902
02:19:28,310 --> 02:19:25,850
flying around up there and in space and

2903
02:19:31,010 --> 02:19:28,320
you know anytime you start trying to

2904
02:19:32,900 --> 02:19:31,020
question the history of NASA you get

2905
02:19:35,541 --> 02:19:32,910
very vicious people who come out of the

2906
02:19:37,100 --> 02:19:35,551
Woodworks and start attacking you and in

2907
02:19:39,411 --> 02:19:37,110
many cases they seem to be very

2908
02:19:42,411 --> 02:19:39,421
unreasonable even though they proclaim

2909
02:19:44,930 --> 02:19:42,421
to be scientists and skeptics and all

2910
02:19:47,661 --> 02:19:44,940
that and so sometimes you almost feel

2911
02:19:49,251 --> 02:19:47,671
like that there always has been some

2912
02:19:50,871 --> 02:19:49,261
force of people out there who are

2913
02:19:52,541 --> 02:19:50,881
protecting the secrets that may be

2914
02:19:55,940 --> 02:19:52,551
related to what we're up to in space

2915
02:20:02,150 --> 02:19:55,950
with the V that you saw were you able to

2916
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:02,160
see anything about it any edges was it

2917
02:20:07,970 --> 02:20:04,410
flat on the edges was there you know

2918
02:20:12,551 --> 02:20:07,980
where any windows anything you know was

2919
02:20:15,850 --> 02:20:12,561
there anything that you can describe no

2920
02:20:20,751 --> 02:20:15,860
there was nothing of any greater detail

2921
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:20,761
than those two big black lines or

2922
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:22,110
actually they were they were not like

2923
02:20:25,610 --> 02:20:24,240
black they were they were going through

2924
02:20:28,520 --> 02:20:25,620
their night vision they were glowing

2925
02:20:31,310 --> 02:20:28,530
green but these two big green lines

2926
02:20:33,650 --> 02:20:31,320
against the black sky with the smaller

2927
02:20:34,940 --> 02:20:33,660
green lines above it so you know I've

2928
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:34,950
talked to people who've said that

2929
02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:36,690
they've seen what looks like a triangle

2930
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:39,330
because when they look up the object

2931
02:20:44,480 --> 02:20:43,110
blocks out the Stars what I saw it

2932
02:20:47,841 --> 02:20:44,490
didn't appear to actually blot out the

2933
02:20:51,140 --> 02:20:47,851
Stars so it may not have been something

2934
02:20:55,310 --> 02:20:51,150
that had some solid material in the

2935
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:55,320
middle it may have just been a craft

2936
02:21:02,211 --> 02:20:59,040
that was in and of itself a giant wing D

2937
02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:02,221
died when okay wait a minute here that's

2938
02:21:08,871 --> 02:21:04,650
interesting are you saying as it passed

2939
02:21:10,791 --> 02:21:08,881
by it didn't block up the stars in back

2940
02:21:14,091 --> 02:21:10,801
of it that you could still see the stars

2941
02:21:16,371 --> 02:21:14,101
through the craft that's right that's

2942
02:21:18,711 --> 02:21:16,381
right and of course there are people who

2943
02:21:20,801 --> 02:21:18,721
have wondered if this could also be the

2944
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:20,811
product of some kind of invisibility

2945
02:21:29,301 --> 02:21:25,290
cloak which is certainly not hard to to

2946
02:21:30,770 --> 02:21:29,311
understand I mean I even we have

2947
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:30,780
aircraft that will

2948
02:21:35,660 --> 02:21:33,290
produce an invisibility cloak by taking

2949
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:35,670
images from the top of the craft and

2950
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:37,710
project them to the bottom right right

2951
02:21:41,751 --> 02:21:39,450
and then and then of course it with the

2952
02:21:45,261 --> 02:21:41,761
USS Nimitz report that came out they

2953
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,271
talked about seeing this craft go

2954
02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:48,000
invisible at various times and they

2955
02:21:51,650 --> 02:21:49,920
could tell it was there because it was

2956
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:51,660
still producing some kind of disruption

2957
02:21:56,330 --> 02:21:54,450
on the water below that optically it

2958
02:21:58,341 --> 02:21:56,340
would disappear from their vantage point

2959
02:22:01,240 --> 02:21:58,351
and so either I could have been looking

2960
02:22:05,211 --> 02:22:01,250
at a giant craft that was mainly cloaked

2961
02:22:06,980 --> 02:22:05,221
so that it looked to be a sort of more

2962
02:22:10,940 --> 02:22:06,990
or less invisible especially to the

2963
02:22:13,820 --> 02:22:10,950
naked eye or it could simply be that the

2964
02:22:15,950 --> 02:22:13,830
craft itself was a huge v-shape that

2965
02:22:20,900 --> 02:22:15,960
that's a pretty incredible sighting

2966
02:22:25,301 --> 02:22:20,910
that's wow and your friend he had three

2967
02:22:28,910 --> 02:22:25,311
friends were your friends skeptics you

2968
02:22:32,930 --> 02:22:28,920
know what were they UFO enthusiasts and

2969
02:22:37,640 --> 02:22:32,940
how did it change them well they were

2970
02:22:39,410 --> 02:22:37,650
certainly interested in UFOs but at that

2971
02:22:41,001 --> 02:22:39,420
time we were all sort of learning

2972
02:22:42,830 --> 02:22:41,011
together whether or not there was

2973
02:22:44,211 --> 02:22:42,840
something to this right I mean though

2974
02:22:45,860 --> 02:22:44,221
that was right around the time when

2975
02:22:49,640 --> 02:22:45,870
people were starting to get out and and

2976
02:22:52,370 --> 02:22:49,650
then try this more frequently and so we

2977
02:22:54,830 --> 02:22:52,380
were we were reserving judgment and but

2978
02:22:58,131 --> 02:22:54,840
at that time I mean we both or we'd all

2979
02:22:59,841 --> 02:22:58,141
seen you know odd little lights darting

2980
02:23:02,961 --> 02:22:59,851
around in the sky and right after sunset

2981
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:02,971
and that kind of thing but as far as I

2982
02:23:08,900 --> 02:23:05,370
know none of us I've ever seen before

2983
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:08,910
nor sense anything like that flying over

2984
02:23:13,160 --> 02:23:12,240
and so that was a life altering moment

2985
02:23:15,261 --> 02:23:13,170
for all of us

2986
02:23:19,461 --> 02:23:15,271
now one last question before I let you

2987
02:23:23,570 --> 02:23:19,471
go let's go back to the time warp did

2988
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:23,580
you feel did you feel anything did you

2989
02:23:32,780 --> 02:23:27,120
feel physically any different when you

2990
02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:32,790
measured the 20 microseconds no I didn't

2991
02:23:38,751 --> 02:23:35,490
feel any different my wife didn't feel

2992
02:23:42,171 --> 02:23:38,761
any different you know if anything I was

2993
02:23:43,881 --> 02:23:42,181
just focused on looking at the meter

2994
02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:43,891
who knows maybe if I could go back and

2995
02:23:46,190 --> 02:23:44,610
do it over

2996
02:23:49,160 --> 02:23:46,200
again I would look up at my surroundings

2997
02:23:55,430 --> 02:23:49,170
and see if something appeared to change

2998
02:23:56,810 --> 02:23:55,440
or distort a little bit but we were

2999
02:24:00,320 --> 02:23:56,820
videotaping and we didn't capture

3000
02:24:02,091 --> 02:24:00,330
anything like that so yeah I mean I feel

3001
02:24:06,171 --> 02:24:02,101
like that if if we are encountering

3002
02:24:08,740 --> 02:24:06,181
these sorts of flickering waving sort of

3003
02:24:11,091 --> 02:24:08,750
time anomalies on a pretty regular basis

3004
02:24:15,350 --> 02:24:11,101
then we are we're not at all aware of it

3005
02:24:17,211 --> 02:24:15,360
it's unless you have something like the

3006
02:24:18,711 --> 02:24:17,221
DejaVu experience or something more

3007
02:24:20,961 --> 02:24:18,721
extreme like that you're looking back

3008
02:24:25,370 --> 02:24:20,971
and time but that doesn't happen very

3009
02:24:29,961 --> 02:24:25,380
often is Heath gonna sell these the DT

3010
02:24:32,301 --> 02:24:29,971
meter yes yes Ronald Heath already has

3011
02:24:36,470 --> 02:24:32,311
at least two or three of them on eBay

3012
02:24:39,831 --> 02:24:36,480
and so if you go to I think his website

3013
02:24:41,780 --> 02:24:39,841
is just DT meter com

3014
02:24:42,831 --> 02:24:41,790
I don't remember if there's a hyphen in

3015
02:24:45,620 --> 02:24:42,841
there and not worry if you just go to

3016
02:24:47,810 --> 02:24:45,630
Joshua P Warren comm and click the link

3017
02:24:50,450 --> 02:24:47,820
at the top then you'll see all kinds of

3018
02:24:52,220 --> 02:24:50,460
interesting supplementary links there to

3019
02:24:54,081 --> 02:24:52,230
the material that I put together in my

3020
02:24:57,140 --> 02:24:54,091
presentation you'll be able to see a

3021
02:24:58,820 --> 02:24:57,150
direct link to the UFO footage and to

3022
02:25:02,480 --> 02:24:58,830
his meter where you can read all about

3023
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:02,490
it and send him questions but I hope

3024
02:25:07,131 --> 02:25:05,280
that people all over the world will

3025
02:25:10,190 --> 02:25:07,141
start taking the initiative to do what

3026
02:25:11,301 --> 02:25:10,200
ia just did I have no vested interest in

3027
02:25:13,310 --> 02:25:11,311
him selling this

3028
02:25:14,900 --> 02:25:13,320
I have never discussed any kind of an

3029
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:14,910
arrangement I don't get a cut of it

3030
02:25:19,131 --> 02:25:17,130
there's never been anything like that so

3031
02:25:21,860 --> 02:25:19,141
I'm not saying this is some kind of a

3032
02:25:26,180 --> 02:25:21,870
marketing effort no I want to buy one

3033
02:25:31,341 --> 02:25:26,190
his work with this okay I'm here there

3034
02:25:34,430 --> 02:25:31,351
it is yes it is DT meter calm and in the

3035
02:25:37,041 --> 02:25:34,440
Las Vegas a video UFO footage is there

3036
02:25:39,020 --> 02:25:37,051
too as well everybody right at the top

3037
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:39,030
just click on Joshua's links over to

3038
02:25:47,990 --> 02:25:43,410
Peter Thomas Joshua with p1 comm and at

3039
02:25:52,671 --> 02:25:48,000
the top of the page it it's how do you

3040
02:25:55,610 --> 02:25:52,681
update how do you how do you have it

3041
02:25:57,530 --> 02:25:55,620
worded refresh your browser or something

3042
02:26:01,030 --> 02:25:57,540
and you'll click the link at the top you

3043
02:26:05,360 --> 02:26:01,040
yeah it was right there

3044
02:26:08,090 --> 02:26:05,370
but anyway Joshua Pete warned calm I got

3045
02:26:10,190 --> 02:26:08,100
to it somehow because I'm actually on

3046
02:26:12,530 --> 02:26:10,200
the page here as well and down at the

3047
02:26:15,980 --> 02:26:12,540
bottom is titi meter calm thank you so

3048
02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:15,990
much Joshua busy day for you and I can

3049
02:26:19,850 --> 02:26:18,330
only imagine what the days and weeks

3050
02:26:22,460 --> 02:26:19,860
ahead are gonna be for you but

3051
02:26:25,070 --> 02:26:22,470
congratulations an absolutely stunning

3052
02:26:26,690 --> 02:26:25,080
discovery thank you so much well I I

3053
02:26:28,820 --> 02:26:26,700
could not be more delighted than my

3054
02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:28,830
voice somehow held out so it's always a

3055
02:26:32,150 --> 02:26:30,690
pleasure talking with you Jimmy thank

3056
02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:32,160
you so much for having me on the show

3057
02:26:37,040 --> 02:26:34,170
this special day and we'll keep each

3058
02:26:39,500 --> 02:26:37,050
other updated on now our mutual progress

3059
02:26:41,511 --> 02:26:39,510
thank you so much Joshua be safe out

3060
02:26:45,620 --> 02:26:41,521
there my friend okay you too

3061
02:26:47,840 --> 02:26:45,630
Joshua P Warren just go to Joshua P

3062
02:26:50,990 --> 02:26:47,850
Warren calm and all the links are right

3063
02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:51,000
there absolutely fascinating video that

3064
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:52,730
goes along with the article too as well

3065
02:26:59,630 --> 02:26:56,370
happy world UFO day everybody Joshua P

3066
02:27:02,210 --> 02:26:59,640
Warren Joshua P Wan calm I'm gonna open

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up the phone lines and talk to all of

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02:27:05,240 --> 02:27:03,300
you next

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this is fade to black I'm real Jimmy

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Church stay with me

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all right welcome back

3152
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fade to black I'm gonna shimmy Church

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open lines right now three two three

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eight to five five zero four or five or

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three to three to seven five nine six

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nine five I've opened up the phone lines

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3158
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conversation with Joshua on this world

3159
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UFO day and so many things to talk about

3160
02:31:55,041 --> 02:31:53,521
here so you know and and talking about

3161
02:31:57,561 --> 02:31:55,051
night vision that sighting that he had

3162
02:32:02,180 --> 02:31:57,571
that's pretty amazing and it didn't

3163
02:32:06,470 --> 02:32:02,190
repeat I find that so interesting I

3164
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things that I have seen with night

3165
02:32:11,871 --> 02:32:09,541
vision some are similar some are

3166
02:32:14,981 --> 02:32:11,881
different but I don't think I've seen

3167
02:32:17,781 --> 02:32:14,991
the same thing twice and I find that

3168
02:32:21,501 --> 02:32:17,791
very very compelling through my own

3169
02:32:24,651 --> 02:32:21,511
experience as well and the Fermi paradox

3170
02:32:28,430 --> 02:32:24,661
a part of the conversation I do want to

3171
02:32:30,191 --> 02:32:28,440
discuss this with all of you what are

3172
02:32:34,311 --> 02:32:30,201
your thoughts on the Fermi paradox

3173
02:32:39,531 --> 02:32:34,321
because there are which is this the

3174
02:32:41,861 --> 02:32:39,541
Fermi paradox is is very simple given

3175
02:32:45,171 --> 02:32:41,871
the math given what we know today about

3176
02:32:50,241 --> 02:32:45,181
the amount of Suns and planets in our

3177
02:32:53,151 --> 02:32:50,251
stars in our own galaxy and and how

3178
02:32:57,890 --> 02:32:53,161
large those numbers are potentially we

3179
02:33:00,771 --> 02:32:57,900
are talking about you know billions of

3180
02:33:04,191 --> 02:33:00,781
planets and you start to break that down

3181
02:33:06,051 --> 02:33:04,201
and the amount of life and intelligent

3182
02:33:10,601 --> 02:33:06,061
civilizations that should be out there

3183
02:33:16,161 --> 02:33:10,611
is incredible so why aren't they here

3184
02:33:18,680 --> 02:33:16,171
okay now the answers to that are well of

3185
02:33:21,470 --> 02:33:18,690
course they are here and then it goes

3186
02:33:24,021 --> 02:33:21,480
back further and further and you can

3187
02:33:26,511 --> 02:33:24,031
peel back many layers here because every

3188
02:33:31,131 --> 02:33:26,521
question that you ask there are multiple

3189
02:33:32,050 --> 02:33:31,141
answers one of the ways to look at this

3190
02:33:37,269 --> 02:33:32,060
is is

3191
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:37,279
a very simple one the the intelligence

3192
02:33:42,490 --> 02:33:40,130
out there the cultures the civilizations

3193
02:33:46,059 --> 02:33:42,500
that are occupying all of these planets

3194
02:33:50,229 --> 02:33:46,069
of course they know that we are here the

3195
02:33:53,859 --> 02:33:50,239
way that they probably communicate with

3196
02:34:00,269 --> 02:33:53,869
each other as they have discovered

3197
02:34:07,359 --> 02:34:04,990
one intelligent alien race would have

3198
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:07,369
for another one is hey who else have you

3199
02:34:11,679 --> 02:34:09,439
made contact with well there's another

3200
02:34:14,620 --> 02:34:11,689
planet over here there's something else

3201
02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:14,630
going on over here great right and they

3202
02:34:18,760 --> 02:34:17,210
go and now they've got this way of

3203
02:34:23,260 --> 02:34:18,770
communicating with each other that they

3204
02:34:25,870 --> 02:34:23,270
understand and it could be won at the

3205
02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:25,880
speed of light that communication - it

3206
02:34:30,969 --> 02:34:28,010
could be faster than the speed of light

3207
02:34:33,939 --> 02:34:30,979
again this is a technology that we

3208
02:34:38,410 --> 02:34:33,949
simply don't understand here the other

3209
02:34:40,780 --> 02:34:38,420
part of it is and they are all well

3210
02:34:43,300 --> 02:34:40,790
aware of what's going on here on this

3211
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:43,310
planet and our level of intelligence and

3212
02:34:49,090 --> 02:34:46,850
the other part again this gets very

3213
02:34:52,330 --> 02:34:49,100
complex very quick and we can continue

3214
02:34:57,939 --> 02:34:52,340
to ask questions and try to figure out

3215
02:35:02,200 --> 02:34:57,949
those answers is is this we have not

3216
02:35:05,050 --> 02:35:02,210
visited another star we have not done

3217
02:35:09,210 --> 02:35:05,060
that yet and they understand that of

3218
02:35:12,550 --> 02:35:09,220
course they would we're not part of the

3219
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:12,560
culture that is going on out there and

3220
02:35:22,380 --> 02:35:17,930
it has to exist that way right now and

3221
02:35:29,639 --> 02:35:22,390
then there is something very simple

3222
02:35:31,650 --> 02:35:29,649
speech speech we talk with our mouths

3223
02:35:37,580 --> 02:35:31,660
okay we

3224
02:35:43,460 --> 02:35:37,590
with our mouths another advanced

3225
02:35:49,260 --> 02:35:43,470
civilization out there would they speak

3226
02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:49,270
verbally right probably not I would

3227
02:35:58,980 --> 02:35:52,450
think so the concept of that type of

3228
02:36:01,670 --> 02:35:58,990
communication is very very primitive to

3229
02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:01,680
them maybe they did it once at one point

3230
02:36:10,670 --> 02:36:06,250
but I'm not so sure that us here humans

3231
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:10,680
in 10,000 years are gonna use speech

3232
02:36:18,570 --> 02:36:14,850
would we use speech would we laugh I

3233
02:36:26,580 --> 02:36:18,580
don't think that we would right

3234
02:36:29,639 --> 02:36:26,590
so now et is here in front of you and

3235
02:36:33,450 --> 02:36:29,649
you expect them to open their mouths and

3236
02:36:37,710 --> 02:36:33,460
talk not sure that they would have that

3237
02:36:40,139 --> 02:36:37,720
capability right so going back to the

3238
02:36:43,710 --> 02:36:40,149
Fermi paradox why why aren't they

3239
02:36:46,710 --> 02:36:43,720
communicating with us the that's one

3240
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:46,720
reason and another reason which again is

3241
02:36:57,060 --> 02:36:53,040
very simple in its concept we through

3242
02:37:01,080 --> 02:36:57,070
conventional ways analog ways used radio

3243
02:37:03,810 --> 02:37:01,090
waves for television broadcast and radio

3244
02:37:05,580 --> 02:37:03,820
broadcasts around this planet and that's

3245
02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:05,590
what has been beamed out there at the

3246
02:37:09,690 --> 02:37:08,290
speed of light right very weak signals

3247
02:37:14,120 --> 02:37:09,700
but they're there and they're there for

3248
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:14,130
people to other cultures to pick up if

3249
02:37:23,070 --> 02:37:18,610
they know what they're listening for or

3250
02:37:27,870 --> 02:37:23,080
searching for to them that type of

3251
02:37:31,230 --> 02:37:27,880
technology is ancient today on this

3252
02:37:34,980 --> 02:37:31,240
planet we still use it but we use it

3253
02:37:38,340 --> 02:37:34,990
less and less and less and less right

3254
02:37:41,730 --> 02:37:38,350
we've got microwaves we've got satellite

3255
02:37:44,270 --> 02:37:41,740
transmissions and we have Direct TV and

3256
02:37:47,810 --> 02:37:44,280
we have the Internet and that's

3257
02:37:49,730 --> 02:37:47,820
different way of beaming our news and

3258
02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:49,740
entertainment around this planet it's

3259
02:37:54,740 --> 02:37:51,840
not necessarily although we still use

3260
02:37:57,680 --> 02:37:54,750
radio but certainly television signals

3261
02:38:00,830 --> 02:37:57,690
are less and less and less and less and

3262
02:38:03,801 --> 02:38:00,840
less and less so less of that is being

3263
02:38:07,341 --> 02:38:03,811
broadcast out and so my point being that

3264
02:38:11,841 --> 02:38:07,351
we have only used that technology for a

3265
02:38:14,211 --> 02:38:11,851
very short period of time less than a

3266
02:38:20,140 --> 02:38:14,221
hundred years there are a hundred years

3267
02:38:27,381 --> 02:38:20,150
okay so give it a buck 20 that's it and

3268
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:27,391
going back out to ET out there ET now

3269
02:38:30,560 --> 02:38:30,000
listen to how I am trying to explain

3270
02:38:37,511 --> 02:38:30,570
this

3271
02:38:42,171 --> 02:38:37,521
if ET is a thousand light years away and

3272
02:38:46,520 --> 02:38:42,181
they were beaming a thousand years ago

3273
02:38:50,870 --> 02:38:46,530
with radio waves well today right and

3274
02:38:52,671 --> 02:38:50,880
and so the other nine hundred light

3275
02:38:56,900 --> 02:38:52,681
years would be with the different

3276
02:38:59,690 --> 02:38:56,910
technology think about that for a second

3277
02:39:03,020 --> 02:38:59,700
and if you stretch it out to a billion

3278
02:39:08,240 --> 02:39:03,030
years a billion light years and they've

3279
02:39:11,480 --> 02:39:08,250
nine hundred and ninety million years of

3280
02:39:14,180 --> 02:39:11,490
that as certainly light-years of that we

3281
02:39:16,881 --> 02:39:14,190
would have missed it because we weren't

3282
02:39:22,310 --> 02:39:16,891
around that long ago and it wouldn't be

3283
02:39:24,051 --> 02:39:22,320
here to us yet so the Fermi paradox kind

3284
02:39:26,150 --> 02:39:24,061
of goes out the window

3285
02:39:28,190 --> 02:39:26,160
the more that you look at each one of

3286
02:39:30,370 --> 02:39:28,200
these I can sit here and break down

3287
02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:30,380
every single one of these questions and

3288
02:39:38,330 --> 02:39:34,650
answer why we haven't heard anything yet

3289
02:39:40,490 --> 02:39:38,340
and and and today the technology now

3290
02:39:43,790 --> 02:39:40,500
that we have the ability to listen and

3291
02:39:49,461 --> 02:39:43,800
we have the ability to scan the universe

3292
02:39:52,011 --> 02:39:49,471
and outside of our own galaxy that we

3293
02:39:55,040 --> 02:39:52,021
are looking for things that probably

3294
02:39:57,770 --> 02:39:55,050
aren't used and the things that we are

3295
02:40:01,810 --> 02:39:57,780
able to listen for

3296
02:40:06,290 --> 02:40:01,820
haven't been used for very long time on

3297
02:40:08,270 --> 02:40:06,300
the et side of things so you have to

3298
02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:08,280
think about what when it comes to the

3299
02:40:17,290 --> 02:40:11,610
Fermi paradox and how we we look at this

3300
02:40:19,850 --> 02:40:17,300
I'm not so sure that it actually applies

3301
02:40:22,220 --> 02:40:19,860
because I know what I've seen in the

3302
02:40:24,200 --> 02:40:22,230
skies I know that we're being visited I

3303
02:40:26,001 --> 02:40:24,210
know that there there are things here I

3304
02:40:30,171 --> 02:40:26,011
know this as a fact I don't need any

3305
02:40:32,240 --> 02:40:30,181
proof of that but there's some of the

3306
02:40:34,430 --> 02:40:32,250
answers some of the answers

3307
02:40:35,810 --> 02:40:34,440
it gets so deep all right let's go to

3308
02:40:39,770 --> 02:40:35,820
the phones hi you're live on fade to

3309
02:40:44,421 --> 02:40:42,740
hi Karen from Seattle how are you I'm

3310
02:40:48,830 --> 02:40:44,431
doing very well thank you how are you

3311
02:40:51,801 --> 02:40:48,840
it's happy world UFO day a lovely day to

3312
02:40:54,470 --> 02:40:51,811
have it's a lovely day to have and what

3313
02:40:57,501 --> 02:40:54,480
a great conversation with Joshua tonight

3314
02:40:58,370 --> 02:40:57,511
amazing yeah that was pretty that was

3315
02:41:02,301 --> 02:40:58,380
pretty astounding

3316
02:41:05,150 --> 02:41:02,311
what's on your mind well I was you know

3317
02:41:09,770 --> 02:41:05,160
just the whole conversation and and the

3318
02:41:12,620 --> 02:41:09,780
Fermi paradox I was just thinking about

3319
02:41:14,450 --> 02:41:12,630
you know if there are imagine if if

3320
02:41:18,020 --> 02:41:14,460
you're a little kid and you're growing

3321
02:41:21,580 --> 02:41:18,030
up in the middle of the Sahara Desert

3322
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:21,590
mm-hmm right you're you're a Bedouin and

3323
02:41:27,501 --> 02:41:25,050
somebody tells you about these fish at

3324
02:41:31,160 --> 02:41:27,511
the bottom of the ocean that have these

3325
02:41:35,150 --> 02:41:31,170
huge teeth and they have a glowing worm

3326
02:41:39,080 --> 02:41:35,160
on their nose are you gonna be able to

3327
02:41:42,801 --> 02:41:39,090
understand that it doesn't mean that

3328
02:41:46,580 --> 02:41:42,811
it's not real you're just not in a place

3329
02:41:52,461 --> 02:41:46,590
you're not in a culture that can grasp

3330
02:41:54,530 --> 02:41:52,471
that kind of other environment world if

3331
02:41:57,620 --> 02:41:54,540
you haven't experienced it you wouldn't

3332
02:42:00,650 --> 02:41:57,630
have any any way of even dealing with it

3333
02:42:03,020 --> 02:42:00,660
you wouldn't even you wouldn't no you

3334
02:42:05,270 --> 02:42:03,030
wouldn't mostly you'd be like what's a

3335
02:42:06,560 --> 02:42:05,280
fish cuz you're you know you're

3336
02:42:11,090 --> 02:42:06,570
surrounded by sand dunes and you're

3337
02:42:15,800 --> 02:42:11,100
eatin goat you don't know from fish

3338
02:42:19,059 --> 02:42:15,810
is there are reports Rita and I were

3339
02:42:23,269 --> 02:42:19,069
talking about this last week when the

3340
02:42:26,090 --> 02:42:23,279
Mayans had first seen the Spanish ships

3341
02:42:29,500 --> 02:42:26,100
right sitting off in the distance before

3342
02:42:32,660 --> 02:42:29,510
they came to shore that they actually

3343
02:42:37,099 --> 02:42:32,670
this although the ships were there they

3344
02:42:38,990 --> 02:42:37,109
didn't see them do you okay they were

3345
02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:39,000
there they were their brains couldn't

3346
02:42:44,179 --> 02:42:41,850
process processes they were things they

3347
02:42:46,399 --> 02:42:44,189
they could not process that they did not

3348
02:42:50,149 --> 02:42:46,409
although they were there and it took

3349
02:42:53,689 --> 02:42:50,159
like three days right until they even

3350
02:42:59,559 --> 02:42:53,699
started to and then the brain started to

3351
02:43:01,910 --> 02:42:59,569
process right and that's I can't imagine

3352
02:43:06,139 --> 02:43:01,920
going through that kind of heart attack

3353
02:43:09,740 --> 02:43:06,149
to see something that you have never so

3354
02:43:11,570 --> 02:43:09,750
yeah I am sure that your system in your

3355
02:43:15,109 --> 02:43:11,580
brain would go through that kind of

3356
02:43:18,139 --> 02:43:15,119
shock where that's it they although the

3357
02:43:22,880 --> 02:43:18,149
ships are there physically there they

3358
02:43:24,889 --> 02:43:22,890
are not there right and I'm just gonna

3359
02:43:26,030 --> 02:43:24,899
I'm just going to toss a little Bible at

3360
02:43:27,559 --> 02:43:26,040
you here I'm not going to get into

3361
02:43:29,389 --> 02:43:27,569
religious discussions just going to give

3362
02:43:31,370 --> 02:43:29,399
you an example bring it the Old

3363
02:43:34,609 --> 02:43:31,380
Testament in the Old Testament

3364
02:43:37,460 --> 02:43:34,619
Elijah's walking through the desert he's

3365
02:43:41,000 --> 02:43:37,470
in trouble with the locals as per usual

3366
02:43:42,830 --> 02:43:41,010
he's got an assistant with him the

3367
02:43:45,290 --> 02:43:42,840
assistants freaking out because they're

3368
02:43:47,660 --> 02:43:45,300
about to get killed from these guys that

3369
02:43:51,320 --> 02:43:47,670
are following them and Elijah prays and

3370
02:43:56,090 --> 02:43:51,330
he said God opened the eye opened his

3371
02:43:58,870 --> 02:43:56,100
eyes so that he might see and this huge

3372
02:44:00,950 --> 02:43:58,880
Vista opens before him with all these

3373
02:44:05,889 --> 02:44:00,960
because of men jealous beings but

3374
02:44:09,139 --> 02:44:05,899
whatever clad in gold Chariots of Fire

3375
02:44:13,420 --> 02:44:09,149
tens and tens and tens and tens of

3376
02:44:15,979 --> 02:44:13,430
thousands and then the vision goes away

3377
02:44:20,149 --> 02:44:15,989
and the assistant turns to rush and goes

3378
02:44:24,889 --> 02:44:20,159
yeah we good we're good they're gonna

3379
02:44:27,769 --> 02:44:24,899
fight for us we're good so you don't we

3380
02:44:33,319 --> 02:44:27,779
don't have mental capacity right now our

3381
02:44:35,300 --> 02:44:33,329
brains are not trained to see through

3382
02:44:38,569 --> 02:44:35,310
all the other realities that are in

3383
02:44:39,489 --> 02:44:38,579
there to see the big picture as it

3384
02:44:43,340 --> 02:44:39,499
worked

3385
02:44:49,519 --> 02:44:43,350
we can't see it we can't grasp it

3386
02:44:51,590 --> 02:44:49,529
have you used night vision yet no I'm

3387
02:44:55,880 --> 02:44:51,600
looking forward to that okay will you

3388
02:44:58,010 --> 02:44:55,890
just wait back to everything that we're

3389
02:45:02,090 --> 02:44:58,020
talking about right now and I'm serious

3390
02:45:05,120 --> 02:45:02,100
when I go outside at night now my head

3391
02:45:10,159 --> 02:45:05,130
is on a swivel it is I mean I'm just

3392
02:45:14,090 --> 02:45:10,169
like just imagining what is actually

3393
02:45:16,340 --> 02:45:14,100
going on I'm so disappointed in Los

3394
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:16,350
Angeles in that I've seen a couple of

3395
02:45:21,739 --> 02:45:19,050
things here in LA I have but by and

3396
02:45:24,019 --> 02:45:21,749
large we have no stars right it's all

3397
02:45:27,649 --> 02:45:24,029
this light pollution you look up and you

3398
02:45:29,870 --> 02:45:27,659
go you know 50 70 miles a hundred miles

3399
02:45:32,149 --> 02:45:29,880
outside of Los Angeles to Joshua Tree

3400
02:45:33,859 --> 02:45:32,159
where there's no light pollution and you

3401
02:45:36,319 --> 02:45:33,869
look up and you see the you know the

3402
02:45:38,269 --> 02:45:36,329
Milky Way and you see the multi colors

3403
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:38,279
and you see the Reds and the blues and

3404
02:45:45,050 --> 02:45:40,880
this is crazy

3405
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:45,060
3d beautiful experience that is going on

3406
02:45:51,080 --> 02:45:47,760
you know up in the skies and here in LA

3407
02:45:55,189 --> 02:45:51,090
got like two or three stars you know and

3408
02:46:00,529 --> 02:45:55,199
I know it's the same it's the same exact

3409
02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:00,539
sky care yeah guy but now my head is on

3410
02:46:06,050 --> 02:46:02,010
a swivel because you go out there with

3411
02:46:08,960 --> 02:46:06,060
night vision and I can guarantee anybody

3412
02:46:11,359 --> 02:46:08,970
anybody go out with night vision one

3413
02:46:13,580 --> 02:46:11,369
time go out and and look up and you will

3414
02:46:15,649 --> 02:46:13,590
see something and pull the night vision

3415
02:46:18,649 --> 02:46:15,659
down and look and it's not there and and

3416
02:46:21,109 --> 02:46:18,659
so in some cases it's it's even low you

3417
02:46:23,029 --> 02:46:21,119
know it's not up really high and then

3418
02:46:26,989 --> 02:46:23,039
pull the night vision down and look and

3419
02:46:29,630 --> 02:46:26,999
it's simply not there I love it I love

3420
02:46:30,889 --> 02:46:29,640
it so we just wait and it goes right

3421
02:46:34,519 --> 02:46:30,899
back to what we're talking about with

3422
02:46:37,580 --> 02:46:34,529
the Mayans or or Elijah out there that's

3423
02:46:39,740 --> 02:46:37,590
you just it it's a

3424
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:39,750
it's a life-changing thing to go through

3425
02:46:43,429 --> 02:46:42,000
I can't wait for you to do it for the

3426
02:46:47,360 --> 02:46:43,439
first time are you going to soul attack

3427
02:46:50,349 --> 02:46:47,370
oh yeah yeah I'm registered on get my

3428
02:46:53,450 --> 02:46:50,359
camping spot I'm ready to go you wait

3429
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:53,460
you wait I could you know I've said that

3430
02:46:58,849 --> 02:46:56,399
so many times Karen there are no

3431
02:47:03,110 --> 02:46:58,859
guarantees be careful when you make a

3432
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:03,120
guarantee well I'm guaranteeing that's a

3433
02:47:09,710 --> 02:47:06,000
guarantee that's where you want to take

3434
02:47:12,910 --> 02:47:09,720
your friend your loved one your family

3435
02:47:14,780 --> 02:47:12,920
member that's a skeptic or on the fence

3436
02:47:17,510 --> 02:47:14,790
you know that's what you want to do

3437
02:47:19,219 --> 02:47:17,520
let's just take him there something's

3438
02:47:22,820 --> 02:47:19,229
gonna happen and you're gonna get the

3439
02:47:25,099 --> 02:47:22,830
last laugh you're gonna enjoy here's the

3440
02:47:30,950 --> 02:47:25,109
great thing everybody in my family has

3441
02:47:34,790 --> 02:47:30,960
seen something when we usually we saw

3442
02:47:38,030 --> 02:47:34,800
them all together twice we were all

3443
02:47:40,429 --> 02:47:38,040
together and saw stuff oh that's so cool

3444
02:47:44,179 --> 02:47:40,439
and that you got to do that together

3445
02:47:46,630 --> 02:47:44,189
now we were talking earlier you know

3446
02:47:53,320 --> 02:47:46,640
I've got calls on hold you know what

3447
02:47:55,790 --> 02:47:53,330
forget them I'm talking to you is right

3448
02:48:01,280 --> 02:47:55,800
I want to go back to the you know this

3449
02:48:05,389 --> 02:48:01,290
whole time warp thing there is and I'm

3450
02:48:07,310 --> 02:48:05,399
so happy that Joshua was able to capture

3451
02:48:11,210 --> 02:48:07,320
this and I'm serial I'm gonna I'm gonna

3452
02:48:12,530 --> 02:48:11,220
get one of these DT meters but we all

3453
02:48:15,469 --> 02:48:12,540
know that there's something going on

3454
02:48:18,650 --> 02:48:15,479
with this I there's just weirdness like

3455
02:48:21,560 --> 02:48:18,660
deja vu and and other things but there

3456
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:21,570
was a movie out that I watched last

3457
02:48:29,599 --> 02:48:25,680
night with Rita called the endless have

3458
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:29,609
you seen it yet no okay write that down

3459
02:48:37,370 --> 02:48:33,120
the endless okay

3460
02:48:44,120 --> 02:48:37,380
now I'm looking at it here I just looked

3461
02:48:46,429 --> 02:48:44,130
it up on Rotten Tomatoes 97% that that

3462
02:48:48,860 --> 02:48:46,439
that you don't get that on Rotten

3463
02:48:51,350 --> 02:48:48,870
Tomatoes I don't care who you are right

3464
02:48:55,790 --> 02:48:51,360
well 97%

3465
02:49:00,051 --> 02:48:55,800
now it is it's exactly what not pretty

3466
02:49:01,850 --> 02:49:00,061
much exactly what Joshua P Warren is is

3467
02:49:04,490 --> 02:49:01,860
talking about what he experienced out

3468
02:49:09,590 --> 02:49:04,500
there in the desert I don't want to give

3469
02:49:13,130 --> 02:49:09,600
the movie away but it involves time

3470
02:49:16,040 --> 02:49:13,140
slips and the the way that the movie is

3471
02:49:18,620 --> 02:49:16,050
shot independent film the directors

3472
02:49:21,080 --> 02:49:18,630
Justin and Erin who played themselves in

3473
02:49:22,520 --> 02:49:21,090
the movie by the way very clever they

3474
02:49:25,580 --> 02:49:22,530
played Justin and Erin

3475
02:49:27,830 --> 02:49:25,590
Justin Benson and Erin Moorhead are two

3476
02:49:31,460 --> 02:49:27,840
of the most gifted I think Aaron wrote

3477
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:31,470
the film two of the gift most gifted

3478
02:49:39,040 --> 02:49:34,530
directors out there and this movie is so

3479
02:49:42,801 --> 02:49:39,050
well written and how it deals with

3480
02:49:47,150 --> 02:49:42,811
anomalies on the ground where you are

3481
02:49:49,040 --> 02:49:47,160
walking and how things can change right

3482
02:49:51,710 --> 02:49:49,050
that's it that's all I'm going to say

3483
02:49:55,910 --> 02:49:51,720
I'm only going that far I don't want to

3484
02:49:58,280 --> 02:49:55,920
ruin this for anybody out there but it

3485
02:50:01,100 --> 02:49:58,290
is so clever so well written so well

3486
02:50:03,680 --> 02:50:01,110
shot and so well acted by everybody in

3487
02:50:06,880 --> 02:50:03,690
it that it's it's something that you can

3488
02:50:11,511 --> 02:50:06,890
experience and and not go man

3489
02:50:14,210 --> 02:50:11,521
it's it's it's amateur shot it's amateur

3490
02:50:17,030 --> 02:50:14,220
written it's cool it's clever but no

3491
02:50:18,770 --> 02:50:17,040
it's got everything in it that will just

3492
02:50:21,261 --> 02:50:18,780
keep you from the beginning to the end

3493
02:50:26,120 --> 02:50:21,271
it's well shot it's well written it's

3494
02:50:28,610 --> 02:50:26,130
well edited it's clever it's clever you

3495
02:50:32,120 --> 02:50:28,620
need to see it it's called the endless I

3496
02:50:36,140 --> 02:50:32,130
think it was released yesterday on the

3497
02:50:40,100 --> 02:50:36,150
first if I'm not mistaken did you write

3498
02:50:42,140 --> 02:50:40,110
a go look at the endless it's really

3499
02:50:44,020 --> 02:50:42,150
really really cool alright Karen that's

3500
02:50:48,200 --> 02:50:44,030
all I got anything else

3501
02:50:51,290 --> 02:50:48,210
well thank you so much the endless okay

3502
02:50:54,261 --> 02:50:51,300
now tomorrow on tomorrow on the show I

3503
02:50:56,000 --> 02:50:54,271
expect everybody listening to a star

3504
02:51:01,250 --> 02:50:56,010
posting in Twitter about how great that

3505
02:51:03,560 --> 02:51:01,260
movie is thank you Karen and join the

3506
02:51:05,030 --> 02:51:03,570
rest of you enjoy the rest of your world

3507
02:51:08,540 --> 02:51:05,040
UFO day

3508
02:51:12,349 --> 02:51:08,550
I will YouTube my great phone call right

3509
02:51:14,269 --> 02:51:12,359
there Karen up in Seattle let me get

3510
02:51:17,719 --> 02:51:14,279
back over here to Twitter yes okay

3511
02:51:23,240 --> 02:51:17,729
everybody's posting this now the endless

3512
02:51:25,340 --> 02:51:23,250
this is a movie you have got to see 100%

3513
02:51:27,110 --> 02:51:25,350
back to front rita was so funny last

3514
02:51:28,820 --> 02:51:27,120
night she goes I know what you're going

3515
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:28,830
to talk about tomorrow on the show well

3516
02:51:36,500 --> 02:51:32,010
I saved it till the end this movie's

3517
02:51:39,800 --> 02:51:36,510
incredible it it I don't want to give it

3518
02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:39,810
away okay I don't want to I don't

3519
02:51:49,070 --> 02:51:44,850
it's I'm just gonna say that much it

3520
02:51:51,019 --> 02:51:49,080
deals with time slips and in fact that

3521
02:51:54,050 --> 02:51:51,029
may not even be the right way to put it

3522
02:52:01,280 --> 02:51:54,060
it's really really cool

3523
02:52:04,340 --> 02:52:01,290
the the how do I want to say this when I

3524
02:52:05,630 --> 02:52:04,350
look at a film okay when I look at a

3525
02:52:08,690 --> 02:52:05,640
film and it doesn't matter if it's a

3526
02:52:10,519 --> 02:52:08,700
comedy dramatic science fiction it

3527
02:52:14,030 --> 02:52:10,529
doesn't matter documentary it doesn't

3528
02:52:17,179 --> 02:52:14,040
really matter for me my tastes are so

3529
02:52:19,849 --> 02:52:17,189
high and my expectations I will stop a

3530
02:52:22,820 --> 02:52:19,859
film in two minutes and and move on to

3531
02:52:30,080 --> 02:52:22,830
the next one if it's not cinematically

3532
02:52:31,040 --> 02:52:30,090
correct okay Gigi said speaking of films

3533
02:52:34,250 --> 02:52:31,050
you've recommended

3534
02:52:37,210 --> 02:52:34,260
I watched annihilation and man what an

3535
02:52:41,059 --> 02:52:37,220
interesting film yeah that's really cool

3536
02:52:43,969 --> 02:52:41,069
Corby waste just said I just bought a DT

3537
02:52:46,160 --> 02:52:43,979
meter differential time right meter and

3538
02:52:49,130 --> 02:52:46,170
there are only a very small limit all

3539
02:52:53,360 --> 02:52:49,140
right Corby wouldn't be going to the

3540
02:52:55,250 --> 02:52:53,370
desert my friend we got to test that we

3541
02:52:58,040 --> 02:52:55,260
got to test that thank you so much Corby

3542
02:52:59,269 --> 02:52:58,050
I can't wait I'm glad you're listening

3543
02:53:03,380 --> 02:52:59,279
to the show too as well

3544
02:53:05,150 --> 02:53:03,390
it's Corby waste of NASA yeah I can't

3545
02:53:07,910 --> 02:53:05,160
wait to what your friends and co-workers

3546
02:53:09,469 --> 02:53:07,920
say about that Corby but we've got to

3547
02:53:13,130 --> 02:53:09,479
take that thing out to the desert and go

3548
02:53:14,599 --> 02:53:13,140
and test now back to what I expect from

3549
02:53:18,560 --> 02:53:14,609
a film I've only got a couple of minutes

3550
02:53:22,850 --> 02:53:18,570
if it isn't visually stunning a media

3551
02:53:23,950 --> 02:53:22,860
out of the gate I I can't focus it won't

3552
02:53:26,450 --> 02:53:23,960
have my attention

3553
02:53:28,490 --> 02:53:26,460
second and that's the cinematography

3554
02:53:32,690 --> 02:53:28,500
second I can tell right away with the

3555
02:53:35,540 --> 02:53:32,700
edits if it if it's artistic or not and

3556
02:53:36,950 --> 02:53:35,550
I can't last for two hours on a film if

3557
02:53:40,011 --> 02:53:36,960
it doesn't have those two things and

3558
02:53:42,680 --> 02:53:40,021
then next I will know immediately out of

3559
02:53:43,670 --> 02:53:42,690
the gate if the script is written

3560
02:53:46,190 --> 02:53:43,680
correctly

3561
02:53:51,980 --> 02:53:46,200
I mean written okay I don't I don't

3562
02:53:54,620 --> 02:53:51,990
expect you know no it just needs to be

3563
02:53:57,080 --> 02:53:54,630
cleverly written and I'll know that out

3564
02:54:00,380 --> 02:53:57,090
of the gate and the next thing is the

3565
02:54:03,650 --> 02:54:00,390
acting I don't care who the actors are

3566
02:54:06,590 --> 02:54:03,660
if they don't have to be Hollywood's

3567
02:54:10,100 --> 02:54:06,600
elite you just have to act correctly and

3568
02:54:11,540 --> 02:54:10,110
I will know in a few first short minutes

3569
02:54:15,140 --> 02:54:11,550
of the film if it has all of those

3570
02:54:18,970 --> 02:54:15,150
elements the endless is ten out of ten

3571
02:54:23,090 --> 02:54:18,980
out of ten out of ten it is that great

3572
02:54:25,670 --> 02:54:23,100
it's our great film great film highly

3573
02:54:27,860 --> 02:54:25,680
highly recommended and that's that's all

3574
02:54:30,110 --> 02:54:27,870
I'm gonna say the endless you need to

3575
02:54:32,690 --> 02:54:30,120
check it out and I would expect that

3576
02:54:35,690 --> 02:54:32,700
everybody listening to me right now is

3577
02:54:37,700 --> 02:54:35,700
going to go and check the film out okay

3578
02:54:39,740 --> 02:54:37,710
so go and do it I want all of your

3579
02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:39,750
comments we're not gonna have a fader

3580
02:54:44,900 --> 02:54:42,720
night this week we will next week but I

3581
02:54:47,480 --> 02:54:44,910
will be able to take your calls and I

3582
02:54:48,980 --> 02:54:47,490
want to hear what everybody has to say

3583
02:54:52,490 --> 02:54:48,990
and how they're gonna react to this film

3584
02:54:55,820 --> 02:54:52,500
it is absolutely amazing okay well

3585
02:54:58,370 --> 02:54:55,830
that's it now a happy world UFO day

3586
02:55:02,360 --> 02:54:58,380
everybody Joshua P Warren Joshua be

3587
02:55:05,330 --> 02:55:02,370
warned comm is the website the articles

3588
02:55:08,511 --> 02:55:05,340
and all of the coverage from Fox and Fox

3589
02:55:11,540 --> 02:55:08,521
News are over at Joshua P Warren comm

3590
02:55:14,990 --> 02:55:11,550
the video that was shot is there too as

3591
02:55:18,110 --> 02:55:15,000
well the highway UFO video and all of

3592
02:55:19,970 --> 02:55:18,120
the information about the D T meter I

3593
02:55:22,160 --> 02:55:19,980
was watching some of the comments here

3594
02:55:23,900 --> 02:55:22,170
and certainly from for Mark out in

3595
02:55:27,590 --> 02:55:23,910
Australia about how small and

3596
02:55:29,840 --> 02:55:27,600
insignificant 20 microseconds is there's

3597
02:55:31,671 --> 02:55:29,850
no question about that the fact that it

3598
02:55:33,890 --> 02:55:31,681
was measured

3599
02:55:38,331 --> 02:55:33,900
is a big big deal because there

3600
02:55:40,791 --> 02:55:38,341
shouldn't be anything that's all and to

3601
02:55:45,111 --> 02:55:40,801
have it go on right there outside of

3602
02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:45,121
Rachel Nevada an area 51 with everything

3603
02:55:50,781 --> 02:55:47,610
else that we know about what goes on up

3604
02:55:56,451 --> 02:55:53,180
and now Corby's got himself a DT meter

3605
02:55:58,791 --> 02:55:56,461
he is now the most popular most popular

3606
02:56:01,871 --> 02:55:58,801
kid in school I cannot wait to go out

3607
02:56:04,041 --> 02:56:01,881
and check that up and put it to the test

3608
02:56:05,690 --> 02:56:04,051
for everybody else out there that's

3609
02:56:08,151 --> 02:56:05,700
listening to me

3610
02:56:10,730 --> 02:56:08,161
baring optics you need to get yourself

3611
02:56:12,281 --> 02:56:10,740
some night-vision goggles click on the

3612
02:56:15,801 --> 02:56:12,291
banner over at Jimmy Trivette radio.com

3613
02:56:18,770 --> 02:56:15,811
go and visit baring optics speak to Alec

3614
02:56:20,571 --> 02:56:18,780
Hoffman he is a fade or not if you are

3615
02:56:22,281 --> 02:56:20,581
on the fence you've been thinking about

3616
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:22,291
it you need the advice you need to know

3617
02:56:27,350 --> 02:56:25,200
what to do speak to Alec Hoffman at

3618
02:56:29,151 --> 02:56:27,360
barring optics all of the information

3619
02:56:32,421 --> 02:56:29,161
for that is over at Jimmy Turks radio

3620
02:56:35,241 --> 02:56:32,431
comm you're going up to e sette you want

3621
02:56:39,741 --> 02:56:35,251
to have your night vision with you on

3622
02:56:41,841 --> 02:56:39,751
that night okay it is the only way to go

3623
02:56:45,651 --> 02:56:41,851
with that tomorrow night on the show

3624
02:56:49,011 --> 02:56:45,661
Michael Lee Hill is here there are some

3625
02:56:52,310 --> 02:56:49,021
inky crop circles that have surfaced if

3626
02:56:54,111 --> 02:56:52,320
you go to Michael Lee Hill dotnet he

3627
02:56:56,151 --> 02:56:54,121
wrote up an article about it we will be

3628
02:56:58,761 --> 02:56:56,161
discussing all of this tomorrow night on

3629
02:57:02,031 --> 02:56:58,771
the show the photographs are amazing

3630
02:57:04,310 --> 02:57:02,041
what is his analysis I'm gonna discuss

3631
02:57:05,121 --> 02:57:04,320
all of that tomorrow night right here on

3632
02:57:08,930 --> 02:57:05,131
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02:57:11,261 --> 02:57:08,940
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02:57:43,080 --> 02:57:41,290
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02:57:44,910 --> 02:57:43,090
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02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:47,050
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3649
02:57:53,220 --> 02:57:50,170
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3650
02:57:56,130 --> 02:57:53,230
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3651
02:58:09,880 --> 02:57:56,140
Hill right here I want everybody to be